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Old 01-07-2008, 01:20 PM
 
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I posted this on another site:

River North

Aerial of the Central Loop/Downtown area and where River North lies within it.


Master Plan


Existing


Proposed
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2782/northaerial2ss1.png (broken link)

River North breakdown


One of the developments proposed for the Museum District is a Museum Plaza. A open air plaza surrounded by new museum buildings as well as lofts and retail.


Transportation in River North will include River Taxi/Bus, Street Car, Street Trolley and new Bus line additions


Rendering of the Streetcar running in a new residential development on Avenue B


River North currently


River North of the future
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Old 01-07-2008, 03:40 PM
 
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This will do wonders for the downtown area.
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Old 01-07-2008, 05:09 PM
 
Location: NW KCMO 64151
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I've just moved to Kansas City, and I don't know how many of you are familiar with the Plaza area, but it's alot like what I'm hoping River North becomes, particularly the arts district (KC's is focused around the Nelson-Adkins Art Museum). In fact, RN might even be able to top it if the street car comes to fruition, as the Plaza is still largely auto-centric in many places.
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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No love for Monorails or barges on the water?
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Old 01-08-2008, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC & San Antonio, TX
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The master plan includes transit for river barges all the way up to the Pearl District before the river hits Brackenridge Park... so it could function like a water taxi between downtown and Pearl (nice scenery but sloooooow).

AFAIK, monorails are not really considered viable public transit options in metros like ours (here's a site that compares the monorail/light rail options Monorail vs. Light Rail: A Comparative North American Summary). It appears that all the powers-that-be in SA seem to be advocating for a fixed in-ground streetcar system (instead of hop-on-hop-off rubber-tire trolley buses). Streetcars will cost upwards of $35mm, but advocates say the investment is the only way to ensure adequate private investment in the surrounding buildings and businesses. I don't really buy that argument but could go along with it if the streetcar system eventually ties into a light-rail system radiating from downtown across the city and up to Austin. But what the heck do I know... that and $2.45 will get you a tall decaf soy latte at Starbucks.

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Old 01-09-2008, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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The master plan includes transit for river barges all the way up to the Pearl District before the river hits Brackenridge Park... so it could function like a water taxi between downtown and Pearl (nice scenery but sloooooow).
Planning to move back in a few years, this project is very intriguing.

Although they would be slow, (maybe 10mph)the directness of the route and the convenience of not having to hunt for a parking space and leave yours may make it a viable option. I think it would be awesome to be living in River North and go to Southtown and not have to travel on a single road. (Negative about the barges is they are lawn mower engines that add to the pollution. Maybe electric barges?) I kind of liken it to the Monon Trail that we have running through Indianapolis. The trail is an abandoned rail line and allows bikes and pedestrian traffic. A whole community has grown around the trail. Property values have increased around the trail and there is much commerce that is easily accessable from the trail.

Maybe allow paddle boats on the river? (Electric paddle boats)

I can dream can't I?
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:51 PM
 
Location: COUNTDOWN CITY...THA DEUCE DIME
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As posted in today's E-N. Hope to meet some fellow C-D'ers who are interested in the progress on River North:

The Downtown Alliance San Antonio is scheduled to hold a second public meeting Tuesday, January 8 to discuss plans for River North, the mixed-use, mixed-income neighborhood along the San Antonio River immediately north of downtown.

A master plan for the project has been revised and updated based on comments received at an earlier public meeting.

The meeting is scheduled to take place at 5:30 p.m. at Providence High School, 1215 N. St. Mary's.

The Downtown Alliance asks that people who plan to attend R.S.V.P. by calling (210) 225-3862.
so is there any new info from this meeting??
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Old 01-09-2008, 08:43 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Question to the participants here. What is going to make River North so much more special than the current northern stretch of the River that has been completed since the 1950's ? The large office building at One Riverwalk (700 N. St. Mary's) was built in the early 80's. It has one of the most beautiful river fronts in the city yet there is no restaurant in the old Pardo's space and the building is only 65% occupied. What makes the new River North so different ?
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Old 01-09-2008, 08:49 PM
 
Location: COUNTDOWN CITY...THA DEUCE DIME
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i think the river is stretching both north and south more than it is already. also the addition of a whole bunch of different things. did u not see the renderings. how can u even ask how its going to be different? its obvious it will be different. and i think adding restaurants is in the plans for the project as well if thats what your looking for.
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:23 PM
 
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The SA museum of art and the new Pearl Brewery would be new additons to the riverwalk.
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