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Old 06-27-2013, 06:37 PM
 
Location: San Antonio. Tx 78209
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Are you really saying they don't exist? I can name two people I know that are in that situation just off the top of my head.
I am, unless you are talking about people that voluntarily joined the peace corp, or is a missionary.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:40 PM
 
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Apparently Councilman Saldana is floating the idea of selling off some underutilized city rec facilities to balance the budget. This idea is probably just a straw man, an idea that's unpopular-by-design and destined to be replaced by the less-unpopular idea of raising the tax rate. Chan thinks that the tax increases being planned behind the scenes may be higher on businesses than citizens.

If the mayor wants to raise taxes, there are now only two council members likely to oppose him.
Elisa Chan is a businesswoman. She knows tax increases on businesses are passed along to their customers. All taxes are paid for by citizens. It just sounds better when you bury them in the price of the goods and services you purchase every day. That way the citizens' wrath is directed at the evil businessmen who raised their prices and not the politicians that are really responsible.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:43 PM
 
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City faces $50 million deficit - San Antonio Express-News

I hope we are not spending more money than we have coming in.

Seriously usually when someone is in deficit they are spending more then they are bringing in... this holds true for anyone.. so they are putting out more then they are bringing in!!
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Balderdash. I don't think the property tax rate has been increased since Sculley's been here (2005ish) and COSA has the highest credit rating of any city in the top 10; it's even higher than the US federal government's rating. In a budget exceeding $2 billion, you'll always find some waste and inefficiency, but IMO, they've been quite responsible with the city coffers.

That's like telling me the crime rate has gone down but in actuality the crime rate has gone up but the measurement tool has changed. Seriously, the tax rate may never have been increased but they have increased our property value by so much that it doesn't really matter... we are paying more in taxes now then we did in 1992 due to increased property values. Lets call it what it is.. property tax increases. Either through the city property taxes or school tax increases.
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Texas
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and who says that wages has kept up with the economy? I for one hasn't seen that.. I haven't had a pay raise in three years. Really who is making more then they were making in 92? Not all of us that is for sure.. Maybe some of you need to do research in if we are really keeping up with the cost of living or you all just see the fact that we are not paying a minimum wage of 7.50 or whatever it is now? But realize this... back in 1979 we were making about 1.25 an hour... now we make 7.50 an hour... but out of that 7.50 are we paying the same portions towards those bills that were taking out of our 1.25 per hour? I think not...

I mean you cant get a house payment for under $100 a month anymore.. you could back then.. Things have changed a lot.. Yes we are all making more money then what we were back in the day.. but guess what? The percentage of what you were paying for items is more then what it was back in the day....

I am sure a lot of you have heard that back in the day one person in the household could go to work and bring home the bacon... today ... you cant even bring home toilet paper unless both people are working with everything going down. Cost of living has gone up.. there is more crap and yes I called it "crap" that have become something has to have in their house that we didn't have back then (cell phones, cable tv, internet, big dollar Televisions) so yeah cost of living has gone up, there have been incremental pay raises given but not even close enough to keep up with that COLA.
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Old 06-28-2013, 06:19 AM
 
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Property values, at least according to BCAD, has FAR surpassed inflation. Coupled with growth, revenues have certainly kept up with the population.

Boondoggles are not in the above equation.
^this. Property values just got jacked up across the board, so guess what? I get to pay more taxes! Just wait until the rate gets raised. It's coming and then people will be here trying to tell us not to complain.
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Old 06-28-2013, 02:09 PM
 
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I am, unless you are talking about people that voluntarily joined the peace corp, or is a missionary.
I don't know what world you are living in. I can name some people as well that have lost their jobs and had to take a pay cut with a new job.
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Old 06-28-2013, 02:48 PM
 
Location: San Antonio. Tx 78209
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I don't know what world you are living in. I can name some people as well that have lost their jobs and had to take a pay cut with a new job.
Again, a pay cut to 1992? I don't believe it. Unless again it's because they wanted too.
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Old 06-28-2013, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Again, a pay cut to 1992? I don't believe it. Unless again it's because they wanted too.
You don't think a person could have been making 100, 000 a year in 2011, lost that job due to recession and in order to get back into the job market take a job in order not to starve at less pay then what they made in 92. And if they did you call it voluntary? You and me must be living in two different worlds. I am in the real one... not to sure where you are at. Just open your eyes and look around.
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:33 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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so if property values increase, which increase the assessed value, therefore higher property taxes, well I guess that is not a tax increase even though taxes went up.
So when the price of consumer goods increases and you pay more sales tax even when the sales tax rate hasn't changed, is that a tax increase as well?
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