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Old 12-06-2013, 10:10 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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Where are you a cop currently?
SAPD, if I remember correctly.
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:19 AM
 
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SAPD, if I remember correctly.
Thank you. I wasn't sure.
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:51 PM
 
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I am not SAPD.

What the guy says flat out doesnt pass the sniff test. I dont expect people who are not cops to understand why. If he was a cop, he would certainly understand.
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:06 PM
 
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Well if you want to avoid answering my question. That's fine. It just makes it easier for me to not take your word every time you post about LEO related issues.
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:21 PM
 
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While I don't always agree with Neshomamench, I don't ever divulge who I'm currently working for on public forums. I especially would not reveal which government agency I'm working for.
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:27 PM
 
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While I don't always agree with Neshomamench, I don't ever divulge who I'm currently working for on public forums. I especially would not reveal which government agency I'm working for.
That is fine. I can accept that L210...however...those being allegedly LEO on this board want us (or expect us) to believe their advice is what we should all follow and act like all others being non-LEO are giving incorrect, untruthful, or bad advice. That part I don't agree with.
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Old 12-06-2013, 05:45 PM
 
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Where were you a cop?

Are you actually telling us that you were once a cop and casually let a Title 18 violation slide...even though you freely admit they should not be wearing a badge? Cops live and breath Title 18.

If that is true, then you are as much the problem as anything about the system you dont like.

You may have been a cop...and if you were then you will especially understand why what you just said doesnt pass the "sniff test."
These were two officers in a marked unit. I felt their conduct was that of unprofessional overzealous rookies. I was a cop in a suburb of a large city. I was not an officer when they stopped me. After that I was in the military. I'm a disabled vet and because I had no video of the incident when they stopped me, I didn't pursue it. And this was before all cruisers had dash cams. You want to color me as part of the problem but you know as well as I do what would have become of my complaint without a video. I'm not a liar on the internet or in real life. I'm not questioning your being an officer but you are questioning my ethics and past position. I was trying to contribute positively in past posts in this thread regarding body cams and stressing the difficulty of the job. I will not argue with you on this thread nor will I resort to insinuating anything derogatory about you. If you choose to not believe anything I say, that's your choice. I don't come to CD for this kind of stuff, some do, but I don't.

Posters please move forward with the thread topic.
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Old 12-06-2013, 06:45 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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I am not SAPD.

What the guy says flat out doesnt pass the sniff test. I dont expect people who are not cops to understand why. If he was a cop, he would certainly understand.
Oh! Oops! Sorry about that.
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Old 12-07-2013, 08:03 AM
 
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These were two officers in a marked unit. I felt their conduct was that of unprofessional overzealous rookies. I was a cop in a suburb of a large city. I was not an officer when they stopped me. After that I was in the military. I'm a disabled vet and because I had no video of the incident when they stopped me, I didn't pursue it. And this was before all cruisers had dash cams. You want to color me as part of the problem but you know as well as I do what would have become of my complaint without a video. I'm not a liar on the internet or in real life. I'm not questioning your being an officer but you are questioning my ethics and past position. I was trying to contribute positively in past posts in this thread regarding body cams and stressing the difficulty of the job. I will not argue with you on this thread nor will I resort to insinuating anything derogatory about you. If you choose to not believe anything I say, that's your choice. I don't come to CD for this kind of stuff, some do, but I don't.

Posters please move forward with the thread topic.
I am questioning how someone who was a cop would not know that a title 18 issue would be a federal issue thus making what the local agency would do not really an issue.
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Old 12-07-2013, 10:05 AM
 
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Yes. (it is a cop expression) "We do what we do and the courts QC our work."

It may sound flippant to some but it does express how the system works. A lot of people just dont understand that the police (in general) DO NOT have to be right. The Police have to be able to articulate why the actions they took rise to the necessary evidentiary standards. They must articulate these beliefs under oath, risking their honor, jobs, pensions and freedom.
Flippant? More like cavalier to me. When I see a BCSO Deputy blow through a school zone (at a time when it is active) at ten miles over the normal speed limit (much less the school zone speed) and yammering away on their cell phone...that tells me that what you said is absolutely true. There is no attempt to QC themselves. Who would stop them from doing what they do? Another officer? Perhaps, but seldom do we see such a thing. The standards need to be adhered to by all. If that is done, then then fewer will have any questions about credibility. When I was in the military we "policed" our own and those that were out of line were punished, sometimes heavily for infractions that would seem innocuous in other institutions. As a result, our military is universally held in high regard. If law enforcement agencies did the same, perhaps there wouldn't be so many doubts. Is law enforcing hard, frustrating, often thankless? Absolutely. Is any of that an excuse for confusing authority with privilege? Absolutely not.

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