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Old 02-28-2014, 05:06 PM
 
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Yes, its legal. Speeding is illegal even if you are just not paying attention, or if you are in a hurry. We all do it. I can understand your concern with the officer on the bridge though. Even though there must be a better way to do it, its still legal.
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Old 02-28-2014, 06:49 PM
 
Location: San Antonio-Westover Hills
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Completely legal.

As a matter of fact, I've seen this same tactic used in numerous other states and even many other countries.

And yes, if you are willing to risk speeding, you should be equally willing to pay the price if caught. No one is forcing you to exceed the posted speed limit, so you've got no one to blame but yourself; and blaming the police for doing the job we pay them to do is equally ridiculous.

Um...not me...

Legal doesn't make it a good idea, that's for sure. I think setting something up like that is a dangerous distraction, and frankly, a little extreme. I'm pretty sure I don't pay them to do that.
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Old 02-28-2014, 07:05 PM
 
Location: New Braunfels, TX
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When it's a uniformed LEO running the radar and making the stops, then it's fair game, IMO.

Where I DO take exception is in the use of unmarked vehicles and/or officers not in full uniform. THAT smacks of "speed trap", and no, I do NOT like it, nor support it in any way. You point what appears to be a firearm at me, I'm NOT going to react calmly to it - and that could end badly for folks. Now, if he's obviously a cop in (or nearby) a marked unit, then I'm gonna look and see if I'm fixin' to be supporting the city's coffers......
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Old 02-28-2014, 08:36 PM
 
Location: San Antonio-Westover Hills
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When it's a uniformed LEO running the radar and making the stops, then it's fair game, IMO.

Where I DO take exception is in the use of unmarked vehicles and/or officers not in full uniform. THAT smacks of "speed trap", and no, I do NOT like it, nor support it in any way. You point what appears to be a firearm at me, I'm NOT going to react calmly to it - and that could end badly for folks. Now, if he's obviously a cop in (or nearby) a marked unit, then I'm gonna look and see if I'm fixin' to be supporting the city's coffers......
these were all unmarked vehicles, some didn't even look like the usual suspects (Chargers, et al). One looked like a Jeep Cherokee. It was unnerving. I kept thinking, would I pull over for a Jeep Cherokee??
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Old 03-01-2014, 12:43 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I drive that stretch of highway everyday and tend to speed but not excessively. I know where the lazy cops are and slow down accordingly. One actually sits on the right hand side just past the Bandera exit at rush hour and almost causes wrecks everyday when people see him and slam on the brakes. SAPD can catch a speeder but really come on... Complete waste of time and money. More people are killed at night from drunks than speeders by 25 to 1. Put SAPD on the same bridge with binoclors looking for drunk drivers at 2am then I'd be all for it but I won't hold my breath.
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Old 03-01-2014, 04:53 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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I tried to find a picture I saw of one of our cops hiding in a cardboard box with his radar gun... it was pretty dubious. Guess if you go the speed limit there will be no issue
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Old 03-01-2014, 05:58 AM
 
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I drive that stretch of highway everyday and tend to speed but not excessively. I know where the lazy cops are and slow down accordingly. One actually sits on the right hand side just past the Bandera exit at rush hour and almost causes wrecks everyday when people see him and slam on the brakes. SAPD can catch a speeder but really come on... Complete waste of time and money. More people are killed at night from drunks than speeders by 25 to 1. Put SAPD on the same bridge with binoclors looking for drunk drivers at 2am then I'd be all for it but I won't hold my breath.
I would have to look at the numbers for Bexar County, but I don't think the gap is that big. Over the years, about half of Texas' roadway deaths have involved alcohol. So, something else has to be causing the other half of those deaths. My guess is that speed and distracted driving are the main culprits.
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Old 03-01-2014, 06:20 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I would have to look at the numbers for Bexar County, but I don't think the gap is that big. Over the years, about half of Texas' roadway deaths have involved alcohol. So, something else has to be causing the other half of those deaths. My guess is that speed and distracted driving are the main culprits.
32.3% were alcohol related

38.7% were single vehicles running of the road

So we have 79% with those two categories of crashes. I don't doubt someone going 85 in 65 is dangerous especially when all the other cars are going 50 but it's not even close to the largest factor in crashes. I suspect it would be pretty hard to catch all the tired/distracted drivers running of the road.



http://ftp.dot.state.tx.us/pub/txdot...12/01_2012.pdf
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Old 03-01-2014, 06:28 AM
 
Location: San Antonio/Houston
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They do the same on the IH35. Also single guy standing on the bridge.
Cops have a great view from the bridges. They usually use a tripod to stabilize the radar. Of course you don't see much when you are driving, and that's the point.
They communicate with the cops on the road, who stop the affected drivers.
Completely legal.

BTW: this is not any different than driving barely marked police cars. And not long ago, SA bought several new pick-ups and sports cars just for that purpose.
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Old 03-01-2014, 07:20 AM
 
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32.3% were alcohol related

38.7% were single vehicles running of the road

So we have 79% with those two categories of crashes. I don't doubt someone going 85 in 65 is dangerous especially when all the other cars are going 50 but it's not even close to the largest factor in crashes. I suspect it would be pretty hard to catch all the tired/distracted drivers running of the road.



http://ftp.dot.state.tx.us/pub/txdot...12/01_2012.pdf
You don't think speeders run off the road? It doesn't say why these people ran off the road.
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