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Old 04-28-2014, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Mid South Central TX
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The way the schools handled this is pitful.
Why?
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:38 PM
 
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Default Here's a local school threat for ya...a real one.

SAN ANTONIO A Madison High School student was taken into custody Monday after weapons were found in his backpack, which caused the school to be locked down, police said.
The school was placed on lockdown around 10:15 a.m. By 11:28 p.m., the lockdown had been lifted and the school released the students back to their classes.
The male student, 17, had three loaded guns and a 12-inch knife, said Aubrey Chancellor, a spokeswoman for North East Independent School District. One of the guns was an AK-47, one was a 45-caliber and one was a .22 caliber, Chancellor said. The student had additional magazines in his backpack, she added.



Armed Madison High School student arrested following lockdown - San Antonio Express-News
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:42 PM
 
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^^^^ Yes, why?
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Old 04-28-2014, 05:11 PM
 
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If you think only parents with kids in school are effected by the decision, then you need to re-read some posts.

I really don't mean any offense to you honestly, but I feel that everyone has a say in this, not just parents. Just because you have children and I don't doesn't mean I don't have the right to question how my portion of the tax money is used in the education system. The way the schools handled this is pitful.
I'm honestly not offended by any of this.

You have a valid opinion, especially when it comes to how your property taxes are spent, but your beef should be with the state, not the parents who chose to keep their kids home.
I don't know how other states handle the money for the educational system, but it always seemed wrong to me the way Texas handles it. In this case, I felt like it created a conflict of interest.

My concern (and I haven't researched it) is what does the state do with money that is intended to go to Education but the kid didn't get marked as present for that day? There's got to be a better way.
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Old 04-29-2014, 07:48 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, Tx
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I will be happy to scan our letter we received on "day one". It said nothing of a hoax, it said, verbatim: "While this may well be a hoax, we have to treat this threat seriously." It made no other assumptions toward the threat. It certainly never made any assumptions in its discussion about SAPD and stated that they were working with SARIC and the FBI in verifying the validity and tracing the source.

That was Friday.

Only on Tuesday evening did I hear anything officially from SAPD as far as being certain there was no credibility. By that time, THEIR credibility was in question.
We never got a letter. I was just going by the first news story I saw on it.
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Old 04-29-2014, 08:17 AM
 
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^^^^ Yes, why?
I gave my reason earlier in the thread but I will quote myself in case you missed it.

"The school administrators clearly should have gotten feedback from the parents before deciding to keep the school open or not because most parents decided to keep them home or take them around town while the schools remain open which costs money for us all!" Post #94
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Old 04-29-2014, 08:26 AM
 
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I'm honestly not offended by any of this.

You have a valid opinion, especially when it comes to how your property taxes are spent, but your beef should be with the state, not the parents who chose to keep their kids home.
I don't know how other states handle the money for the educational system, but it always seemed wrong to me the way Texas handles it. In this case, I felt like it created a conflict of interest.

My concern (and I haven't researched it) is what does the state do with money that is intended to go to Education but the kid didn't get marked as present for that day? There's got to be a better way.
You are right. My problem is more with the state education system than the parents who kept their kids out of school. I will say I have more respect for the parents that did send their kids to school when they knew the schools would stay open.
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Old 04-29-2014, 11:36 AM
 
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I gave my reason earlier in the thread but I will quote myself in case you missed it.

"The school administrators clearly should have gotten feedback from the parents before deciding to keep the school open or not because most parents decided to keep them home or take them around town while the schools remain open which costs money for us all!" Post #94
Totally not practical.

Many parents work, and at such late notice are not in a position to take a day off just because some parents are scared. Cancelling a day of school is a HUGE deal. It's only done for weather in extreme circumstances. It requires scheduling another day of school - which is expensive and also a huge deal.

School attendance is not based on popular vote.

now, the administrators could have made an across the board decision to cancel school, but taking a poll of parents would have been idiotic for such a major undertaking.

Our school had 30% absenteeism. Huge by normal standards, but not a majority. Should the school have listened to those parents who screamed the loudest because they live in fear?


I do think the funding based on attendance is ridiculous and should change, but that's a different issue.
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Old 04-29-2014, 01:18 PM
 
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Totally not practical.

Many parents work, and at such late notice are not in a position to take a day off just because some parents are scared. Cancelling a day of school is a HUGE deal. It's only done for weather in extreme circumstances. It requires scheduling another day of school - which is expensive and also a huge deal.

School attendance is not based on popular vote.

now, the administrators could have made an across the board decision to cancel school, but taking a poll of parents would have been idiotic for such a major undertaking.

Our school had 30% absenteeism. Huge by normal standards, but not a majority. Should the school have listened to those parents who screamed the loudest because they live in fear?


I do think the funding based on attendance is ridiculous and should change, but that's a different issue.
Well, keeping the schools open at half capacity is idiotic decision making as well. As I said before, my issue wasn't really with the parents but I guess the school administrators didn't expect so many parents to be worried enough to keep their kids home.
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Old 04-29-2014, 01:51 PM
 
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I agree that that many absences hurts the school district; there is no doubt about that. I don't think erring on the side of caution (ie. keeping your child home), when there was a significant enough threat that it involved district police and city law enforcement, is "living in fear" though. If it was living in fear, then after yesterday and today I would say their fear was justified considering they found multiple weapons. The student had the obvious intention of causing violence, and the resources to do it.

Like others have said, you are much more likely to suffer a car accident than be the victim of a shooting. That's not going to stop most people from driving a car, and car accidents happen often. At the same time, you rarely get an advanced warning about them. School shootings don't happen as often (albeit more often than they should). And in this case, those who would have been affected were alerted of the possible danger.

Either way, something suffers. I don't think either decision (keeping the child home vs. letting them go to school) makes anyone a "bad parent." Thankfully, they caught the person before anyone was hurt. People aren't always that fortunate.
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