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Unread 07-01-2008, 03:07 AM
 
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I was reading the article with a very open mind and was doing my best to remain unbiased. . . until I got to the denial of the open records request part.

That bothers me. If there wasn't a problem, there wouldn't be any issues with regards to its release. At least that's what the common sense section of my brain is chanting.
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Unread 07-01-2008, 07:07 AM
 
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With regards to the SAHA comment,
Simply put, I am pretty much disgusted with way things are going in that area. It seems that these folks are given a decent roof over thier head for pennies whereas the average working citizen has to bust thier butt to make ends meet. Add the fact that a large percentage of them refuse to work or better themselves and you can see where the problems start.

I do not want to be misinterpreted here so listen up! There are alot good people, who, for whatever reason, need that type of assistance. I understand and support them completely. Its the ones who would take advantage of the system that I am angry at. Have you ever asked yourself why they need off duty police officers to patrol certain SAHA developements? I also have a beef with reduced housing costs for many of these people because a vast majority of them have been reprimanded for criminal activity and refuse to make the effort to change. Instead they invite thier estranged husbands or boyfriends over and willingly participate in criminal activity. Yet when something happens, its "pity me time" and you see thier tear streaked faces all over the news. For the adults who make the choice to put themselves in these types of situations, I have no sympathy. My sympathy lies soley with the children who have to live with these idiots. They are the silent victims, and is it any wonder that we have the crime we have now? Look at the role models they have!

Sure there are alot of bleeding hearts out there that will say what I write is calloused and insensitive, but you know what? How many kids can you find out at 2 and 3 oclock in the morning that come from good christian homes? I'm sure there are some, but not that many! Oh and heres my take on the folks out there who say that alot of these folks had no role models of thier own and as such are following the pattern. To them I say B.S! There are so many self help organizations out there that are willing to help, all you have to do is inquire. Oh wait, that would mean that they would actually have to put down the marijuana pipe, pry themselves away from that 52 inch flat screen TV, pick up that 200 dollar cell phone, and make a call, so they can possibly find a job, child care assistance and become a productive member of society. Heaven forbid that should happen. When you've been given everything, its hard to take the self initiative to start doing things on your own.

Am I bitter? Hell yeah I am. I have to bust my butt, as does my wife so I can make ends meet. I sometimes work two to three side jobs to pay my bills and I sacrifice alot of family time in doing so. Maybe I should go on unemployment, fake a major disability, and retire healthy and happy while someone else foots the bill!

Ok, some of you will be riled up at my commments, but I'm not one without suggestions to solve the existing problems.

If you qualify for State subsidized housing, it would only be for two years, unless you had very small children then it would be for three. The elderly are in a different category and they should be given priority over everyone. During that time frame you would be given a job dependant upon your educational experience. If you chose part time, then you would have to go to a continuing education course for four hours a day until such a time as you meet the requirements for either a GED or Associates degree from SAC. During that time frame you would be expected to meet at least a "C" average. Anything below and you would be given academic probation. Fall below the mandated average again and start looking for another place to live. What about the small children you ask? We have so many daycares and facilities out there, make the City accountable for creating a large daycare facility, one staffed with certified, registered staff, all having had background checks. If the occupant is evicted, make them wards of the state until such a time as the parent (s) could show that they have a safe haven for the children in a clean and healthy enviroment. Then they get thier children back. Yeah , I know, our CPS workers and State run homes are over worked and underpaid right? Heres my take on that one, we can spend over 5 million dollars for an animal shelter, but cant fork up the change to protect our kids....seems like twisted priorites to me. Let me see, food and shelter for Fido or food and shelter for innocent victimized children? Gee thats a tough one. With regards to my assistance program. it would be tough and a contract of adherence would be signed by the parent (s), but isnt life tough anyways? I gaurantee you when they walk down that aisle to recieve thier diploma, it will all have been worth it! Oh and heres what I say to the ones with teens. ROTC would be mandatory as well as a sport of thier choice. The ROTC will teach discipline and respect while the sport would teach unity through teamwork. Transportation an issue? Not if VIA hopped on Board with the program. Im sure they can spread thier substantial paychecks around to create some type of transportation for these folks. As far as the one with substance abuse problems and legal issues. There lots of lawyers who will assist you pro bono to help straighten out you legal issues. The drug addictions would be counseled and urinalsys tests would be conducted bi weekly as dictated by an assigned mentor/case worker. The occupants living in this type of housing would sign a waiver consenting to search anytime the mentor or case worker feels there is a breech of the agreement regarding criminal activity. Prior to any search being conducted, it would have to have the signature of the case worker along with a non biased 3rd party to ensure the occupants rights are not violated. The search would be conducted in accordance with mandates set forth by a state judge so as to ensure consistency in enforcement. Anyone found residing on premises who is not authorized to be there will cause the contract to become null and void and the occupant will be evicted. Once again the children will become wards of the state until such a time as the parent (s) can prove that the children will be housed in a safe enviroment. Sundays would be a day of faith and religious education, because no matter what the non believers say, our constitution was founded on biblical principals and as such should be taught as a requirement in this program. I dont care about your whole church and state thing so save your breath. I believe that its the lack of spiritual guidance that is killing this country and no matter what you say, I'll never concede to your point. Dont like this as a requirement? Then come up with a better plan.

Ok so thats my plan to fix some of the problems, and if given adequate attention, I'm sure we could save the tax payers a whole lot of money in the long run.

Bear in mind that there are alot of gray areas in my plan, but, with time and experience I'm pretty sure we could take some of these folks off the Gravy train and make them earn thier keep. Self respect and honor go along way nowadays. For those of you who say its not that easy, I say you are wrong as it is that easy. If you can bypass all the political BS, this would be a wonderful program. Rember respect is earned, not given. You have to prove to society that you want to change or the only one your fooling is yourself.

I am all for assistance and financial aid to those who truly need it and appreciate it, however I am against anyone wanting a free ride because of the color of thier skin or thier alien status. I'm sick of hearing Im this or that or your picking on me because I'm this or that. Grow up, pretty soon all races will be intemixed and the only one left will be American. I dont personally care what color your skin is as long as you earn your keep. I have enough kids to support, why should I support yours as well because you made some poor life decisions? Thats my take on the SAHA issue.

And I am truly sorry that you were victimized as it must have been a terrible thing to go through. If its any consolation, the laws of this state are very clear on what we can do regarding harrassment and intimidation. It almost sounded like you were being stalked because it was a continuing episode stemming from the same incident. Hopefully you were able to save the computer correspondence and any other proof of the harrssment. And I'm hoping that each incident was documented and a case number generated. When you create a paper trail, its easier for the DA to prosecute. Anyways, thats my two cents.....
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Unread 07-01-2008, 09:58 AM
 
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With regards to the SAHA comment,
Simply put, I am pretty much disgusted with way things are going in that area. It seems that these folks are given a decent roof over thier head for pennies whereas the average working citizen has to bust thier butt to make ends meet. Add the fact that a large percentage of them refuse to work or better themselves and you can see where the problems start.

I do not want to be misinterpreted here so listen up! There are alot good people, who, for whatever reason, need that type of assistance. I understand and support them completely. Its the ones who would take advantage of the system that I am angry at. Have you ever asked yourself why they need off duty police officers to patrol certain SAHA developements? I also have a beef with reduced housing costs for many of these people because a vast majority of them have been reprimanded for criminal activity and refuse to make the effort to change. Instead they invite thier estranged husbands or boyfriends over and willingly participate in criminal activity. Yet when something happens, its "pity me time" and you see thier tear streaked faces all over the news. For the adults who make the choice to put themselves in these types of situations, I have no sympathy. My sympathy lies soley with the children who have to live with these idiots. They are the silent victims, and is it any wonder that we have the crime we have now? Look at the role models they have!

Sure there are alot of bleeding hearts out there that will say what I write is calloused and insensitive, but you know what? How many kids can you find out at 2 and 3 oclock in the morning that come from good christian homes? I'm sure there are some, but not that many! Oh and heres my take on the folks out there who say that alot of these folks had no role models of thier own and as such are following the pattern. To them I say B.S! There are so many self help organizations out there that are willing to help, all you have to do is inquire. Oh wait, that would mean that they would actually have to put down the marijuana pipe, pry themselves away from that 52 inch flat screen TV, pick up that 200 dollar cell phone, and make a call, so they can possibly find a job, child care assistance and become a productive member of society. Heaven forbid that should happen. When you've been given everything, its hard to take the self initiative to start doing things on your own.

Am I bitter? Hell yeah I am. I have to bust my butt, as does my wife so I can make ends meet. I sometimes work two to three side jobs to pay my bills and I sacrifice alot of family time in doing so. Maybe I should go on unemployment, fake a major disability, and retire healthy and happy while someone else foots the bill!

Ok, some of you will be riled up at my commments, but I'm not one without suggestions to solve the existing problems.

If you qualify for State subsidized housing, it would only be for two years, unless you had very small children then it would be for three. The elderly are in a different category and they should be given priority over everyone. During that time frame you would be given a job dependant upon your educational experience. If you chose part time, then you would have to go to a continuing education course for four hours a day until such a time as you meet the requirements for either a GED or Associates degree from SAC. During that time frame you would be expected to meet at least a "C" average. Anything below and you would be given academic probation. Fall below the mandated average again and start looking for another place to live. What about the small children you ask? We have so many daycares and facilities out there, make the City accountable for creating a large daycare facility, one staffed with certified, registered staff, all having had background checks. If the occupant is evicted, make them wards of the state until such a time as the parent (s) could show that they have a safe haven for the children in a clean and healthy enviroment. Then they get thier children back. Yeah , I know, our CPS workers and State run homes are over worked and underpaid right? Heres my take on that one, we can spend over 5 million dollars for an animal shelter, but cant fork up the change to protect our kids....seems like twisted priorites to me. Let me see, food and shelter for Fido or food and shelter for innocent victimized children? Gee thats a tough one. With regards to my assistance program. it would be tough and a contract of adherence would be signed by the parent (s), but isnt life tough anyways? I gaurantee you when they walk down that aisle to recieve thier diploma, it will all have been worth it! Oh and heres what I say to the ones with teens. ROTC would be mandatory as well as a sport of thier choice. The ROTC will teach discipline and respect while the sport would teach unity through teamwork. Transportation an issue? Not if VIA hopped on Board with the program. Im sure they can spread thier substantial paychecks around to create some type of transportation for these folks. As far as the one with substance abuse problems and legal issues. There lots of lawyers who will assist you pro bono to help straighten out you legal issues. The drug addictions would be counseled and urinalsys tests would be conducted bi weekly as dictated by an assigned mentor/case worker. The occupants living in this type of housing would sign a waiver consenting to search anytime the mentor or case worker feels there is a breech of the agreement regarding criminal activity. Prior to any search being conducted, it would have to have the signature of the case worker along with a non biased 3rd party to ensure the occupants rights are not violated. The search would be conducted in accordance with mandates set forth by a state judge so as to ensure consistency in enforcement. Anyone found residing on premises who is not authorized to be there will cause the contract to become null and void and the occupant will be evicted. Once again the children will become wards of the state until such a time as the parent (s) can prove that the children will be housed in a safe enviroment. Sundays would be a day of faith and religious education, because no matter what the non believers say, our constitution was founded on biblical principals and as such should be taught as a requirement in this program. I dont care about your whole church and state thing so save your breath. I believe that its the lack of spiritual guidance that is killing this country and no matter what you say, I'll never concede to your point. Dont like this as a requirement? Then come up with a better plan.

Ok so thats my plan to fix some of the problems, and if given adequate attention, I'm sure we could save the tax payers a whole lot of money in the long run.

Bear in mind that there are alot of gray areas in my plan, but, with time and experience I'm pretty sure we could take some of these folks off the Gravy train and make them earn thier keep. Self respect and honor go along way nowadays. For those of you who say its not that easy, I say you are wrong as it is that easy. If you can bypass all the political BS, this would be a wonderful program. Rember respect is earned, not given. You have to prove to society that you want to change or the only one your fooling is yourself.

I am all for assistance and financial aid to those who truly need it and appreciate it, however I am against anyone wanting a free ride because of the color of thier skin or thier alien status. I'm sick of hearing Im this or that or your picking on me because I'm this or that. Grow up, pretty soon all races will be intemixed and the only one left will be American. I dont personally care what color your skin is as long as you earn your keep. I have enough kids to support, why should I support yours as well because you made some poor life decisions? Thats my take on the SAHA issue.

And I am truly sorry that you were victimized as it must have been a terrible thing to go through. If its any consolation, the laws of this state are very clear on what we can do regarding harrassment and intimidation. It almost sounded like you were being stalked because it was a continuing episode stemming from the same incident. Hopefully you were able to save the computer correspondence and any other proof of the harrssment. And I'm hoping that each incident was documented and a case number generated. When you create a paper trail, its easier for the DA to prosecute. Anyways, thats my two cents.....
GOD BLESS
Bravo!!!!
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Unread 07-01-2008, 12:44 PM
 
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With regards to the SAHA comment,
Simply put, I am pretty much disgusted with way things are going in that area. It seems that these folks are given a decent roof over thier head for pennies whereas the average working citizen has to bust thier butt to make ends meet. Add the fact that a large percentage of them refuse to work or better themselves and you can see where the problems start.

I do not want to be misinterpreted here so listen up! There are alot good people, who, for whatever reason, need that type of assistance. I understand and support them completely. Its the ones who would take advantage of the system that I am angry at. Have you ever asked yourself why they need off duty police officers to patrol certain SAHA developements? I also have a beef with reduced housing costs for many of these people because a vast majority of them have been reprimanded for criminal activity and refuse to make the effort to change. Instead they invite thier estranged husbands or boyfriends over and willingly participate in criminal activity. Yet when something happens, its "pity me time" and you see thier tear streaked faces all over the news. For the adults who make the choice to put themselves in these types of situations, I have no sympathy. My sympathy lies soley with the children who have to live with these idiots. They are the silent victims, and is it any wonder that we have the crime we have now? Look at the role models they have!

Sure there are alot of bleeding hearts out there that will say what I write is calloused and insensitive, but you know what? How many kids can you find out at 2 and 3 oclock in the morning that come from good christian homes? I'm sure there are some, but not that many! Oh and heres my take on the folks out there who say that alot of these folks had no role models of thier own and as such are following the pattern. To them I say B.S! There are so many self help organizations out there that are willing to help, all you have to do is inquire. Oh wait, that would mean that they would actually have to put down the marijuana pipe, pry themselves away from that 52 inch flat screen TV, pick up that 200 dollar cell phone, and make a call, so they can possibly find a job, child care assistance and become a productive member of society. Heaven forbid that should happen. When you've been given everything, its hard to take the self initiative to start doing things on your own.

Am I bitter? Hell yeah I am. I have to bust my butt, as does my wife so I can make ends meet. I sometimes work two to three side jobs to pay my bills and I sacrifice alot of family time in doing so. Maybe I should go on unemployment, fake a major disability, and retire healthy and happy while someone else foots the bill!

Ok, some of you will be riled up at my commments, but I'm not one without suggestions to solve the existing problems.

If you qualify for State subsidized housing, it would only be for two years, unless you had very small children then it would be for three. The elderly are in a different category and they should be given priority over everyone. During that time frame you would be given a job dependant upon your educational experience. If you chose part time, then you would have to go to a continuing education course for four hours a day until such a time as you meet the requirements for either a GED or Associates degree from SAC. During that time frame you would be expected to meet at least a "C" average. Anything below and you would be given academic probation. Fall below the mandated average again and start looking for another place to live. What about the small children you ask? We have so many daycares and facilities out there, make the City accountable for creating a large daycare facility, one staffed with certified, registered staff, all having had background checks. If the occupant is evicted, make them wards of the state until such a time as the parent (s) could show that they have a safe haven for the children in a clean and healthy enviroment. Then they get thier children back. Yeah , I know, our CPS workers and State run homes are over worked and underpaid right? Heres my take on that one, we can spend over 5 million dollars for an animal shelter, but cant fork up the change to protect our kids....seems like twisted priorites to me. Let me see, food and shelter for Fido or food and shelter for innocent victimized children? Gee thats a tough one. With regards to my assistance program. it would be tough and a contract of adherence would be signed by the parent (s), but isnt life tough anyways? I gaurantee you when they walk down that aisle to recieve thier diploma, it will all have been worth it! Oh and heres what I say to the ones with teens. ROTC would be mandatory as well as a sport of thier choice. The ROTC will teach discipline and respect while the sport would teach unity through teamwork. Transportation an issue? Not if VIA hopped on Board with the program. Im sure they can spread thier substantial paychecks around to create some type of transportation for these folks. As far as the one with substance abuse problems and legal issues. There lots of lawyers who will assist you pro bono to help straighten out you legal issues. The drug addictions would be counseled and urinalsys tests would be conducted bi weekly as dictated by an assigned mentor/case worker. The occupants living in this type of housing would sign a waiver consenting to search anytime the mentor or case worker feels there is a breech of the agreement regarding criminal activity. Prior to any search being conducted, it would have to have the signature of the case worker along with a non biased 3rd party to ensure the occupants rights are not violated. The search would be conducted in accordance with mandates set forth by a state judge so as to ensure consistency in enforcement. Anyone found residing on premises who is not authorized to be there will cause the contract to become null and void and the occupant will be evicted. Once again the children will become wards of the state until such a time as the parent (s) can prove that the children will be housed in a safe enviroment. Sundays would be a day of faith and religious education, because no matter what the non believers say, our constitution was founded on biblical principals and as such should be taught as a requirement in this program. I dont care about your whole church and state thing so save your breath. I believe that its the lack of spiritual guidance that is killing this country and no matter what you say, I'll never concede to your point. Dont like this as a requirement? Then come up with a better plan.

Ok so thats my plan to fix some of the problems, and if given adequate attention, I'm sure we could save the tax payers a whole lot of money in the long run.

Bear in mind that there are alot of gray areas in my plan, but, with time and experience I'm pretty sure we could take some of these folks off the Gravy train and make them earn thier keep. Self respect and honor go along way nowadays. For those of you who say its not that easy, I say you are wrong as it is that easy. If you can bypass all the political BS, this would be a wonderful program. Rember respect is earned, not given. You have to prove to society that you want to change or the only one your fooling is yourself.

I am all for assistance and financial aid to those who truly need it and appreciate it, however I am against anyone wanting a free ride because of the color of thier skin or thier alien status. I'm sick of hearing Im this or that or your picking on me because I'm this or that. Grow up, pretty soon all races will be intemixed and the only one left will be American. I dont personally care what color your skin is as long as you earn your keep. I have enough kids to support, why should I support yours as well because you made some poor life decisions? Thats my take on the SAHA issue.

And I am truly sorry that you were victimized as it must have been a terrible thing to go through. If its any consolation, the laws of this state are very clear on what we can do regarding harrassment and intimidation. It almost sounded like you were being stalked because it was a continuing episode stemming from the same incident. Hopefully you were able to save the computer correspondence and any other proof of the harrssment. And I'm hoping that each incident was documented and a case number generated. When you create a paper trail, its easier for the DA to prosecute. Anyways, thats my two cents.....
GOD BLESS
You want to be really sick? It was stalking to an extent but we HELPED THIS PERSON. For a very long time. She had issues and we knew it but it was about the kids who, when they initially moved in, were all very young (from 1 - 6). We helped with food, money, clothing, you name it. Never a ton at once but helping here and there over a period of four years adds up and ASKING for favors was never a problem with her.

I did save all of the correspondence. I had the ISP backing me, the detective understood everything to a t. I had her ip traced to EVERYTHING she did (by way of a small uploaded photo that would snag her ip whenever she went to certain areas online to contact me harass me or just plain snoop) and the DA rejected the case. They said that based on what happened even with the MOUNTAIN of evidence I had (and that's exactly what I had) that they couldn't do it. I contacted SAHA on multiple occasions. I was able to provide photos of the rock she used to damage my car sitting IN her yard, MATCHING the shape of the indent that it left in her yard and matching the scratches down the bac of my new car. I had videotape of her screaming at me outside and witness statements to the effect that she was doing her best to slander me and make neighbors believe that I (although nobody saw it! go figure) was harassing HER and her children. The same neighbor she said this to was talking to me on my front porch when she sent her daughter TO MY HOUSE to ask me for a movie she claims I had of hers that we did NOT have. IF I harassed her and her family, why is she sending a six year old to my home alone? None of it made sense but it wasn't enough for the DA. When it comes to computer crimes, we are VERY VERY behind.

Saha wouldn't listen either. The initial investigator understood and said that they would only need a preponderance of evidence and that would be enough to get her kicked off. UNFORTUNATELY he was replaced as he was promoted and nobody else understood and I was treated like I was doing something wrong by reporting her. I finally got someone who sort of understood and when I explained that I was told I could bring my multitude of items showing what she had done to harass us with her 37 dollar a month internet that she secured while we all paid for her food and the roof over her head and hers and her childrens healthcare, the guy was kind of like "ok, but we probably won't be able to do anything, if it's on the computer then there's not really a way" (that was almost verbatim). Trying to get someone who understood or would take the time to understand took so long it was costing me money. I spent HOURS every day and just couldnt anymore.

I plan on writing a letter to our legislator and the awesome detective who helped me out and DID take the time to understand and learn and even COME OUT HERE to her home (she slammed the door in his face!) offered to help me with the wording regarding what it was specifically that had the DA so wary about prosecuting. I was disappointed. I know they COULD have. They chose not to. I think we need laws so ironclad that there's no room for the DA to even say "well, they could argue that". NO, no arguing, period. She did it, she's guilty, you can see that - FIX IT.

So there are laws in place but the burden of proof is ours and if you can't make it your full time job and then some, you're SOL. It was a horrible year. And we're still paying for her to eat, get medical treatment and have a roof over her head. SAHA verified that.

With regards to SAPD, I have respect for the detective who helped me and the officers I encountered throughout the ordeal. I personally can't say anything negative except that I think we're severely understaffed.
The city is dying to attract more people and wants to be more "public friendly" but if we don't have the manpower to keep these areas safe and maintain the rising influx of people whethey they're visting, live here, whatever then it's pointless to do all of that. Safety should ALWAYS be the number one issue and here it's not. I know that firsthand now.
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Unread 07-01-2008, 03:23 PM
 
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welcome aboard winterscorpion, that's some quality posting there. You're hitting all sorts of nails exactly on the head.. matter of fact, my fellow carpoolers and I were talking about mcmanus last night when we saw his billboard for being a responsible pet owner. I'm all for that, but not down at all for him. I was the minority, which is usually the case in this particular group, and I even used the exact same term to describe him: Too freaking PC. The guy has nothing between his legs and it shows. The only way he got to where he is, is by spending a lot of time on his knees.. sorry, but sometimes the truth is ugly..
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Unread 07-05-2008, 03:08 PM
 
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Well to those who support my ideas and points of view I can only say thanks. Rest assured there are those who would argue and point fingers at police rather than hold themelves accountable. I find that in a lot of cases, education and social status tend to be the driving forces behind allegations of misconduct involving police. Let me give you an example...

I stopped this person for driving to fast in a school zone. I knew this because she passed the rest of the traffic to include my plainly marked patrol vehicle. Lets disregard that the woman was driving a Lexus for a moment and rewind to the initial stop which was totally warranted. Upon makling contact with this woman, I attempted to identify myself and the reason for the stop. She would not immediately respond as she was in the middle of an important cell phone conversation with her attorney. After about five minutes I asked her to hang up the cell phone as professionaly as I could and produce her driver's license and proof of insurance. Her response was anything but kind and she immediately started dropping names from the city council on down to the chiefs office. Still with me? Good because it gets better. I let her vent then requested her driver's license and proof of insurance again. She decided that I needed to be reminded of who she was yet again and gave me a verbal thrashing while she took her time getting the requested documents. Once I had them, and after about ten minutes of listening to her rhetoric I returned to my patrol vehicle and wrote a school zone violation citation (speeding). She made it clear in no uncertain terms that she would have my job and that she would speak to my superiors about my behavior. I found this rather absurd, since it was I who had to listen while this educated person of our community insulted and berrated me, all because I was doing my job as a public servant. I tried in vain to appeal to her sense of what was right and what was wrong reminding her that the school zones are in place for a reason and reminded her to drive carefully. This angered her even more and as she drove away, she uttered obscenities I will not repeat in this thread. My point to this you asK?

There are many in the upper echlon of society who feel that thier social status gives them immunity from the enforcement process. These people are name droppers, finger pointers and many other names I will not mention here. You pay us to do a job...we do it. But heaven forbid it is you that is identified as one of the law breakers then all we hear is "shouldn't you be catching thieves and rapists instead of messing with innocent citizens?" Think about it, because you know I'm right. Oh and heaven for bid you call our department and make a frivolous complaint all for the sake of getting even. You know the law allows us to go forth with charges against anyone who would make a ficticious complaint. Ask any seasoned officer who has a good work ethic and works for his pay and I'm sure he'll say the same thing. I am not afraid to admit that I have made mistakes in my carreer as Peace Officer. The difference between me and the other guy is I own up to them and take my medicine when its called for. I also learn from my mistakes. When we stop habitual speeders, its usually for the same thing over and over again. Are they really learning thier lesson? Next time you feel compelled to drop a name or point a finger at someone, think about this, your the one that has to lay your head down at night...I hope you sleep well knowing that you lied or made a frivolous claim to get even. Rest assured, God knows who's right...

Thats my two cents on that subject....had to respond sorry if it offended some of you. I just call 'em like I see 'em.
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Unread 07-06-2008, 01:57 AM
 
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Next time you feel compelled to drop a name or point a finger at someone, think about this, your the one that has to lay your head down at night...I hope you sleep well knowing that you lied or made a frivolous claim to get even. Rest assured, God knows who's right...

Thats my two cents on that subject....had to respond sorry if it offended some of you. I just call 'em like I see 'em.
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If someone is offended by that then chances are they're one of the finger pointers or name-droppers you just mentioned.

The job you do is VERY appreciated by some/most (I would hope). . .I'd like to say everyone but that would be a perfect world and this is anything but.
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Unread 11-27-2008, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Minnesota, south of the metro
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Aside from certain undercover officers doing drug buys and whatnot, the job of the police should be operate under the utmost transparency. No "sealed records" when it comes to the outcome of police investigations, full name on the badge/uniform and placed in a very conspicous manner, no cops harassing law abiding citizens recording police actions from a public street, no field grade punishment via TASER for "non-compliance"...

And would somebody tell those damn cops "lawful orders" only apply to members of the military and police force? I've seen way too many videos where a cop approaches someone, seemingly out of the blue, and harasses them for "failing to comply with a lawful order".

Listen, *******s; you work for us. Remember that "Protect and Serve" that used to be on the squad cars?
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