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03-24-2008, 10:03 PM
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Houston-Sugarland will always be a MSA but it can also be looked at as a CSA, for the bigger picture. Do a lot of people commute from Hunstville into Houston? Thats why they make up all these classifications. If San Antonio-New Braunfels-San Marcos-Austin grow more together in the future, they would be considered only a CSA. Never be considered just a MSA but a (Combined) CSA. Still one can break it down and separate the componets and count each separately.
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03-24-2008, 10:08 PM
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Houston-Sugarland will always be a MSA but it can also be looked at as a CSA, for the bigger picture. Do a lot of people commute from Hunstville into Houston? Thats why they make up all these classifications. If San Antonio-New Braunfels-San Marcos-Austin grow more together in the future, they would be considered only a CSA. Never be considered just a MSA but a (Combined) CSA. Still one can break it down and separate the componets and count each separately.
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Some people commute to Houston from Huntsville, but not enough for Huntsville to be included in Houston's MSA. And it doesn't matter if Austin and SA grow together. It depends on commuting patterns. I just thought it was funny that you tried to say that Houston doesn't have an MSA. Every major metro has an MSA and CSA. For example, New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Boston, Bay Area (San Fran-Oakland are an MSA and San Jose is an MSA, they both are one CSA together), DC-Baltimore (split up as MSA, but make one CSA), DFW, Houston, Atlanta, etc.
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03-24-2008, 10:08 PM
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What are you talking about? Houston's MSA definition is the Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown MSA. Houston's CSA includes Huntsville and Bay City micro-metro areas. Baytown is not in its own MSA. Half of the city itself is in Harris County, so how could it be?
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Sorry I mean Bay city. |
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03-24-2008, 10:13 PM
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An interesting factoid: According to Milwaukee Region Rankings, San Antonio ranks 13th in per capita Fortune 500 headquarters, which is actually out-of-date now since NuStar just became a Fortune 500 company. With them, we move up to about 9th. In terms of raw numbers, we were tied for 8th, now up to 7th. ( FORTUNE 500 2007: Cities) |
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03-24-2008, 10:15 PM
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Some people commute to Houston from Huntsville, but not enough for Huntsville to be included in Houston's MSA. And it doesn't matter if Austin and SA grow together. It depends on commuting patterns. I just thought it was funny that you tried to say that Houston doesn't have an MSA. Every major metro has an MSA and CSA. For example, New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Boston, Bay Area (San Fran-Oakland are an MSA and San Jose is an MSA, they both are one CSA together), DC-Baltimore (split up as MSA, but make one CSA), DFW, Houston, Atlanta, etc.
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It's more than just commuting patterns. But if they keep growing together all these factors will probably fall in place. I know a lot of people that commute back in forth from both cities. This is why the areas between both cities are some of the fastest growing areas in the country. Many people want to live between both cities to have easier access to both. These to cities rival each other so much, Austin(bigger ego) more so, it will be very intersting to see what happens in the next 20-30 years.
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03-24-2008, 10:19 PM
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An interesting factoid: According to Milwaukee Region Rankings, San Antonio ranks 13th in per capita Fortune 500 headquarters, which is actually out-of-date now since NuStar just became a Fortune 500 company. With them, we move up to about 9th. In terms of raw numbers, we were tied for 8th, now up to 7th. ( FORTUNE 500 2007: Cities) |
This is for city limits correct, and not metro areas? SA appears to be ranked 20th on the list. Also, if it is outdated for SA, it will be outdated for other cities as well.
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It's more than just commuting patterns. But if they keep growing together all these factors will probably fall in place. I know a lot of people that commute back in forth from both cities. This is way the areas between both cities are some of the fastest growing areas in the country. Many people want to live between both cities to have easier access to both. These to cities rival each other so much, Austin(bigger ego) more so, it will be very intersting to see what happens in the next 20-30 years.
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Doesn't matter the people you know, it matters how many overall actually commute (percentage). And yes, commuting patterns is really the only thing. If SA and Austin had commuter rail between the two, but still not enough people commuted between both, they would not be considered a CSA.
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03-24-2008, 10:25 PM
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03-24-2008, 10:27 PM
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Okay? I knew about this already actually.
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03-24-2008, 10:28 PM
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This is for city limits correct, and not metro areas? SA appears to be ranked 20th on the list.
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The Milwaukee list claims to be for metro areas. The CNN list is probably city limits.
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Also, if it is outdated for SA, it will be outdated for other cities as well.
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True, but probably not enough to make that much of a difference. |
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03-24-2008, 10:29 PM
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With how close the cities are (CNN list), for the bottom half, it would make a difference.
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