SA metro estimate just shy of 2 million (Houston, Dallas: 2011, beach)

[traveler guy]

[quote=oldmanshirt;3231377]

Originally Posted by traveler guy

T Stacy isn't approved and the developer has been having lots of trouble securing financing, so it's not likely to get built any time soon.

And despite it's recent glut of residential high-rises, there's still a troubling shortage of affordable housing in DT Austin, something SA has had for years. What SA lacks is the high-end stuff for rich retirees and young professionals. In SA, however, the more attractive areas for those people will be areas like Southtown, King William, and the '09. In other words, areas away from tourists, which is something else Austin doesn't have alot of

Yeah I checked again right now and it's still on proposal I was also aware of the poster wanting only office space but I just had to put these out to.

[ryneone]

So about the topic???

[ddrewa]

Originally Posted by traveler guy

Correct me if I'm wrong but I saw higher numbers in the labor force then the non-labor force which contradicts your post. Again correct me if I'm wrong.

labor force = everyone of working age and below retirement age who are participating workers, that is people actively employed or looking for work

non-labor force = everyone else (children, retired, those not looking for work)

[SweethomeSanAntonio]

Originally Posted by King Koopa

SA's regulations are only for the areas near The Alamo, not all of Downtown. DC is the ENTIRE district. And Arlington has more highrises Downtown than SA's Downtown and Austin's put together. That, and it also isn't the only business district in the area. Go a little further north near Tyson's Corner and Rossyln's, and you have more highrises. And you should know that the Washington Monument is the exception. The Washington Monument is not a highrise office, hotel, residential, etc., tower the last time I checked .

Valero isn't bigger than Exxon. Not even close as an overall company. ExxonMobil has over five times as many employees (21,000 for Valero compared to 107,000 for ExxonMobil).

It's now the largest.

Bloomberg.com: Top Worldwide

VALERO IS NOW LARGEST REFINER.(Business) - The Cincinnati Post (Cincinnati, OH) - HighBeam Research

[King Koopa]

Originally Posted by SweethomeSanAntonio

It's now the largest.

Bloomberg.com: Top Worldwide

VALERO IS NOW LARGEST REFINER.(Business) - The Cincinnati Post (Cincinnati, OH) - HighBeam Research

Did you read the article you posted (which is three years old by the way)? I think it is common knowledge now that Valero is North America's largest refiner, but not oil company. Key words in both articles: refining capacity.

[imaterry78259]

The quest is SA need to put some ump in its skyline. Brown dull looking building just don't cut it. When people drive though Austin and see those skyscrapers and through SA and see a skyless like downtown what city do you think is going to get the most attention

[ddrewa]

Originally Posted by imaterry78259

The quest is SA need to put some ump in its skyline. Brown dull looking building just don't cut it. When people drive though Austin and see those skyscrapers and through SA and see a skyless like downtown what city do you think is going to get the most attention

gotta love those sweeping generalizations and illogical conclusions.

[SweethomeSanAntonio]

Originally Posted by imaterry78259

The quest is SA need to put some ump in its skyline. Brown dull looking building just don't cut it. When people drive though Austin and see those skyscrapers and through SA and see a skyless like downtown what city do you think is going to get the most attention

San Antonio's skyline is not skyless or dull. Looking at the inventory, San Antonio has more jewels like the beautiful Tower Life, Nix etc. Austin has none of this. Just the new Frost bank is nice. Austin looks like anywhere USA.The new 600 footer is pretty much boring. Still San Antonio has the Tower of Ameircas, taller than anything in Austin. The tower makes a statment on the skyline. San Antonio is filling in nicely, is more dense and has a much more urban core. These brown buildings may be limestone, but have beautiful detail, and better than any glass box there is in Austin. As far as attention, San Antonio's downtown ammenties blows Austins off the map. Austin skyline is growing but it doesnt blow San Antonio's in size just yet. San Antonio skyline is much more intresting imo. I think San Antonio is going to blow up with more new skyscrapers real soon.

[SweethomeSanAntonio]

Originally Posted by oldmanshirt

Sorry, I just can't buy that argument considering Galveston is a popular destination in its own right, Pasadena contains a large concentration of refineries and other energy corp operations like Exxon, Katy has a large retail development, and The Woodlands has a considerable amount of office space and urban development.

Now, you may argue that Galveston kind of stands apart from Houston, Pasadena is kind of smelly, and Katy and The Woodlands are just typical suburbs, but they all have more development than any SA suburb or satellite city, and other Houston metro cities such as Sugar Land should serve as a model for leaders of SA metro cities when they consider how to grow economically while still maintaining a unique charm and character.

Luckily, I think they're on the right track, and these population growth numbers reflect that

Galveston is a part of the extended metro(CSA but isn't really a suburb of Houston. It's not like Mesa,Tempe, Scottsdale to Phoenix ,Long Beach(460,000) to L.A. or Arlington(367,000) to Dallas.

San Antonio suburbs are growing, Shertz,Selma, Universal City,Cibolo the NE Partnerhsip have close to 100,000 people. New Braunfels is metro S.A and has over 50,000 but isn't really a suburb, even if it merges. N.B. is closer to San Antonio than Galveston to Houston.
Houston and San Antonio don't have big city suburbs(Mesa,Az 460,000) like other big metros.
Houston has Pasedena(143,000) but thats about as big as it gets. Yes Houston has bigger suburbs than S.A.thats a given. I don't think it matters because not to many cities are in the same league as Houston. Houston is a enormous and powerful place.

[traveler guy]

It's funny how we went from discussing the population of SA's metro to talking about Houston's metro population.