SA metro estimate just shy of 2 million (Houston, San Antonio: university, light rail)

[schertz1]

The brown buildings are all very old and characteristic of large cities ( NYC, Philly, Chicago, and others ) in the 1930s-1960s. Many cities with emerging skylines lack this characteristic, Atlanta, Miami, Austin and many others. I find it funny the johnny come latelys can so easily down play a historic city, one that has had a skyline since the 1930's. When the tower life building was built it was the tallest building west of the Mississippi. The flood in San Antonio also had a great deal to do with the slowdown of the CBD.

[King Koopa]

Originally Posted by SweethomeSanAntonio

Galveston is a part of the extended metro(CSA but isn't really a suburb of Houston. It's not like Mesa,Tempe, Scottsdale to Phoenix ,Long Beach(460,000) to L.A. or Arlington(367,000) to Dallas.

San Antonio suburbs are growing, Shertz,Selma, Universal City,Cibolo the NE Partnerhsip have close to 100,000 people. New Braunfels is metro S.A and has over 50,000 but isn't really a suburb, even if it merges. N.B. is closer to San Antonio than Galveston to Houston.
Houston and San Antonio don't have big city suburbs(Mesa,Az 460,000) like other big metros.
Houston has Pasedena(143,000) but thats about as big as it gets. Yes Houston has bigger suburbs than S.A.thats a given. I don't think it matters because not to many cities are in the same league as Houston. Houston is a enormous and powerful place.

Don't speak on Houston please . First, Galveston is in Houston's MSA (which is Houston). Second, Houston does have some big suburbs. Pasadena is at 150,000. Sugar Land (if you include the areas it will annex) is above 100,000. When the Woodlands becomes a city in 2011, it will have 200,000. The areas with a "Katy, Texas" (and what you would call Katy) address are already above 200,000. Pearland will be over 100,000 for the 2010 Census. Unincorporated Northwest Harris County (and what many would define as Cypress/Klein), have a population of 800,000. And Long Beach isn't a suburb. Riverside and Irvine are examples of a suburb. They also anchor a side of the LA region though (Riverside for the Inland Empire: population four million; and Irvine for Orange County: population 2.5 million).

[King Koopa]

Originally Posted by schertz1

The brown buildings are all very old and characteristic of large cities ( NYC, Philly, Chicago, and others ) in the 1930s-1960s. Many cities with emerging skylines lack this characteristic, Atlanta, Miami, Austin and many others. I find it funny the johnny come latelys can so easily down play a historic city, one that has had a skyline since the 1930's. When the tower life building was built it was the tallest building west of the Mississippi. The flood in San Antonio also had a great deal to do with the slowdown of the CBD.

That obviously didn't last long, and now it is not even in the top 20 for West of the Mississippi.

[traveler guy]

yeah San Antonio was a early developer but now it's getting old and soggy. even though I enjoy the older buildings I think it's time for a makeover. It would be nice to be a city were you can see the old mixed with the new to show how SA has grown over the centuries.

[NEsananto]

The quest is SA need to put some ump in its skyline. Brown dull looking building just don't cut it. When people drive though Austin and see those skyscrapers and through SA and see a skyless like downtown what city do you think is going to get the most attention

And then they look outside of the downtown area of Austin and see nothing while in San Antonio they would see more large buildings around the airport-410-281 area, the 410/10 interchange and medical center and the low and midrisies that strattle 410, 281, and 10.

[ryneone]

Originally Posted by King Koopa

Don't speak on Houston please . First, Galveston is in Houston's MSA (which is Houston). Second, Houston does have some big suburbs. Pasadena is at 150,000. Sugar Land (if you include the areas it will annex) is above 100,000. When the Woodlands becomes a city in 2011, it will have 200,000. The areas with a "Katy, Texas" (and what you would call Katy) address are already above 200,000. Pearland will be over 100,000 for the 2010 Census. Unincorporated Northwest Harris County (and what many would define as Cypress/Klein), have a population of 800,000. And Long Beach isn't a suburb. Riverside and Irvine are examples of a suburb. They also anchor a side of the LA region though (Riverside for the Inland Empire: population four million; and Irvine for Orange County: population 2.5 million).

If you want a Houston thread on incorporated suburbs go to the HOUSTON forum. This is that SA forum on it reaching 2 million.

[schertz1]

I really do not see anything wrong with this skyline.

[schertz1]

Originally Posted by King Koopa

Don't speak on Houston please . First, Galveston is in Houston's MSA (which is Houston). Second, Houston does have some big suburbs. Pasadena is at 150,000. Sugar Land (if you include the areas it will annex) is above 100,000. When the Woodlands becomes a city in 2011, it will have 200,000. The areas with a "Katy, Texas" (and what you would call Katy) address are already above 200,000. Pearland will be over 100,000 for the 2010 Census. Unincorporated Northwest Harris County (and what many would define as Cypress/Klein), have a population of 800,000. And Long Beach isn't a suburb. Riverside and Irvine are examples of a suburb. They also anchor a side of the LA region though (Riverside for the Inland Empire: population four million; and Irvine for Orange County: population 2.5 million).

Long Beach is a LA suburb.

[oldmanshirt]

The comparisons between SA and Houston are really quite useless, considering they're completely different cities/metros with different economies, geographies, and demographics.

I have a feeling that in 5-10 years it will all be moot anyway, since by that time SA will likely be a top 25 metro in population. The only question is whether it will be SA-New Braunfels-Schertz, or SA-New Braunfels-Seguin MSA

And for what it's worth, to me density and the creative reuse of old buildings is just as important in a downtown as large shiny buildings. In this area, SA excels, and the eventual development of River North, combined with the filling in of blank areas in both Ft. Sam and along Broadway in the Brackenridge area will do more for the urban core than just throwing up a couple of faceless towers ever could.

[King Koopa]

Originally Posted by ryneone

If you want a Houston thread on incorporated suburbs go to the HOUSTON forum. This is that SA forum on it reaching 2 million.

Yet, Houston is being discussed by SA forumers.