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Old 06-23-2008, 08:58 AM
Location: San Antonio North
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Yea she is next. If her dad really "loved her" he would step in. It is amazing how celebrity drug addictions go untreated and punished. Is it just me or does it seem lie a lot of celebrities are hooked these days. I've been their done that. Ruined myself financially and almost relationship wise. Luckely I had someone to help me out of self destruction. I wish someone would do the same for her. Seems it is not a financial burden to her but defiantly your life is too high to pay for most things.

Old 06-23-2008, 09:03 AM
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Glad you're out of that mess, Ryan. I've never been an addict (except for nicotine and caffeine, and chocolate) but I have a brother that's is a practicing alcoholic. We try and try to get him help, and he just isn't at rock-bottom yet. 2 DUI's and a job loss as a result have not been enough for him to say "OK, I don't want to do this anymore." It must be an awful way to live. But he has to want the help and until then, our cries and prayers go unanswered. I just wonder if anyone is crying and praying for her? Her father does seem involved in her life, so maybe this time, he can get through to her how much damage she has done to herself.
Old 06-23-2008, 09:17 AM
Location: San Antonio North
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So true. I was never at rock bottom thank God. But yea I really forget that people need to want to change. It is so sad to hear about as I have been their before. You know somewhere inside they want to get out of it but it just seems like the desire for the fix is to much. I wish their was a way that people can be taken out of a situation ad force to see themselves through others eyes. I should not be so angry at her father as you say he seems involved but his hands are tied. IDK
Old 06-23-2008, 09:32 AM
Location: Griesheim, Germany
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I'm now completely drug free. Nicotine was the last and worst, but it's almost to the 14 month point. evil, EVIL drug and definitely a drug with very real addiction because I still want it..
Old 06-23-2008, 09:34 AM
Location: SoCal-So Proud!
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Congrats Rd..great decision. I'm sure that your family is appreciative as well.
Old 06-23-2008, 09:36 AM
Location: Griesheim, Germany
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my wallet liked it too, that last tax increase got me, plus I was sick of listening to myself wheeze when I was trying to go to sleep. It was like I had a whistle in my throat..
Old 06-23-2008, 10:22 AM
Location: Universal City, Texas
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I hope this e-mail I received from my sister is not inappropriate for this off-topic thread:

Subject: Two Choices

What would you do?....you make the choice. Don't look for a punch line, there isn't one. Read it anyway. My question is: Would you have made the same choice?

At a fundraising dinner for a school that serves children with learning disabilities, the father of one of the students delivered a speech that would never be forgotten by all who attended. After extolling the school and its

dedicated staff, he offered a question:

'When not interfered with by outside influences, everything nature does, is done with perfection.

Yet my son, Shay, cannot learn things as other children do.

He cannot understand things as other children do. Where is the natural order of things in my son?'

The audience was stilled by the query.

The father continued. 'I believe that when a child like Shay, who was mentally and physically disabled comes into the world, an opportunity to realize true human nature presents itself, and it comes in the way other people treat that child.'

Then he told the following story:

Shay and I had walked past a park where some boys Shay knew were playing baseball.

Shay asked, 'Do you think they'll let me play?'

I knew that most of the boys would not want someone like Shay on their team, but as a father I also understood that if my son were allowed to play, it would give him a much-needed sense of belonging and some confidence to be accepted by others in spite of his handicaps.

I approached one of the boys on the field and asked (not expecting much) if Shay could play.

The boy looked around for guidance and said, 'We're losing by six runs and the game is in the eighth inning.

I guess he can be on our team and we'll try to put him in to bat in the ninth inning.'

Shay struggled over to the team's bench and, with a broad smile, put on a team shirt.

I watched with a small tear in my eye and warmth in my heart.

The boys saw my joy at my son being accepted.

In the bottom of the eighth inning, Shay's team scored a few runs but was still behind by three.

In the top of the ninth inning, Shay put on a glove and played in the right field. Even though no hits came his way, he was obviously ecstatic just to be in the game and on the field, grinning from ear to ear as I waved to him from the stands.

In the bottom of the ninth inning, Shay's team scored again.

Now, with two outs and the bases loaded, the potential winning run was on base and Shay was scheduled to be next at bat.

At this juncture, do they let Shay bat and give away their chance to win the game?

Surprisingly, Shay was given the bat. Everyone knew that a hit was all but impossible because Shay didn't even know how to hold the bat properly, much less connect with the ball.

However, as Shay stepped up to the

plate, the pitcher, recognizing that the other team was putting winning aside for this moment in Shay's life, moved in a few steps to lob the ball in softly so Shay could at least make contact.

The first pitch came and Shay swung clumsily and missed.

The pitcher again took a few steps forward to toss the ball softly towards Shay.

As the pitch came in, Shay swung at the ball and hit a slow ground ball right back to the pitcher.

The game would now be over.

The pitcher picked up the soft grounder and could have easily thrown the ball to the first baseman.

Shay would have been out and that would have been the end of the game.

Instead, the pitcher threw the ball right over the first baseman's head, out of reach of all team mates.

Everyone from the stands and both teams started yelling, 'Shay, run to first!

Run to first!'

Never in his life had Shay ever run that far, but he made it to first base.

He scampered down the baseline, wide-eyed and startled.

Everyone yelled, 'Run to second, run to second!'

Catching his breath, Shay awkwardly ran towards second, gleaming and struggling to make it to the base.

By the time Shay rounded towards second base, the right fielder had the ball ... the smallest guy on their team who now had his first chance to be the hero for his team.

He could have thrown the ball to the second-baseman for the tag, but he understood the pitcher's intentions so he, too, intentionally threw the ball high and far over the third-baseman's head.

Shay ran toward third base deliriously as the runners ahead of him circled the bases toward home.

All were screaming, 'Shay, Shay, Shay, all the Way Shay'

Shay reached third base because the opposing shortstop ran to help him by turning him in the direction of third base, and shouted, 'Run to third! Shay, run to third!'

As Shay rounded third, the boys from both teams, and the spectators, were on their feet screaming, 'Shay, run home! Run home!'

Shay ran to home, stepped on the plate, and was cheered as the hero who hit the grand slam and won the game for his team

'That day', said the father softly with tears now rolling down his face, 'the boys from both teams helped bring a piece of true love and humanity into this world'.

Shay didn't make it to another summer. He died that winter, having never forgotten being the hero and making me so happy, and coming home and seeing his Mother tearfully embrace her little hero of the day!


We all send thousands of jokes through the e-mail without a second thought, but when it comes to sending messages about life choices, people hesitate.

The crude, vulgar, and often obscene pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion about decency is too often suppressed in our schools and workplaces.

If you're thinking about forwarding this message, chances are that you're probably sorting out the people in your address book who aren't the 'appropriate' ones to receive this type of message Well, the person who sent you this believes that we all can make a difference.

We all have thousands of opportunities every single day to help realize the 'natural order of things.'

So many seemingly trivial interactions between two people present us with a choice:

Do we pass along a little spark of love and humanity or do we pass up those opportunities and leave the world a little bit colder in the process?

A wise man once said every society is judged by how it treats it's least fortunate amongst them.

You now have two choices:
1. Delete
2. Forward

May your day, be a Shay Day

Last edited by gy2020; 06-23-2008 at 11:08 AM.. Reason: edited out edit quotes
Old 06-23-2008, 10:25 AM
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Looks like we had a "heat of passion" murder in Stone Oak last night.

Husband Allegedly Shoots Wife, Wife's Friend, Then Sets Them On Fire | WOAI.COM: San Antonio News

I just feel sorry for their kids. The only saving grace is that it's summer, and they won't have to be tormented at school right away.
Old 06-23-2008, 10:42 AM
Location: Griesheim, Germany
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any e-mail that has fwd this to everyone on your list or anything like that deserves something like this: http://www.city-data.com/forum/3967966-post328.html
I think of them more as viruses because they choke up mail servers and don't serve a purpose. Jokes, on the other hand, make people laugh.. besides, those cheesy stories are always creative fiction, maybe true .00001% of the time..
Old 06-23-2008, 10:49 AM
Location: Universal City, Texas
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Sorry, I won't post anymore of that type. But I'll keep posting. I just thought it had a nice ring.
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