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Old 04-29-2008, 10:08 PM
 
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Truckers are not going to shut down, it is just going to cost more. If truckers shut down that will just accelerate containers getting on rail.
Wait, you said they're not shutting down and then you said "if they do". Truckers are already shutting down. My brother owns his own rig, and he's OK for now, but many of his friends are parked.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:14 PM
 
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I agree it would be nice if Texas at least lowers the tax rater temporarily. I would like to take a slight tangent to sapphire's op. Even though gas prices keep rising every week, did you know that our government is STILL pumping 50,000 barrels a day into the US Strategic Petroleum Reserve in Texas and Louisiana? This is definitely not helping the situation. IMO, they should halt this temporarily (at least through the summer) and release some of the almost 700 million barrels already in the reserve to produce more diesel fuel to help bring down the prices our commercial trucks have to pay that raise prices throughout the economy.
How can we get them to suspend this? What's it going to take?
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:15 PM
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Wait, you said they're not shutting down and then you said "if they do". Truckers are already shutting down. My brother owns his own rig, and he's OK for now, but many of his friends are parked.
There is no shut down on any large scale. Plenty of truckers a complaining, but truckers are still making runs. Truckers need to invest in their rigs if they want to stay in the game. Moving to super singles(big double wide tires) increase fuel economy by 3%. HEB has already made this switch, wal mart is doing it. Adding a genset decreases the amount of time spent idling. Both these upgrades pay for themselves in a year or two with fuel savings.

Walmart is also planning on doubling its fleet mpg in the next few years. They claim they can do it, but going from 6.5mpg to 13mpg is going to take a small miracle.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:18 PM
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How can we get them to suspend this? What's it going to take?

An act of congress or an executive order from the president. Stopping oil flowing into the reserve will only save a penny or two at the pump. Not really worth it.

We are done with cheap gas for a while, so ther eis not much point in releasing oil from the reserve either. It is there for an emergency, not because the population is unhappy with the price of gas.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:22 PM
 
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There is no shut down on any large scale. Plenty of truckers a complaining, but truckers are still making runs. Truckers need to invest in their rigs if they want to stay in the game. Moving to super singles(big double wide tires) increase fuel economy by 3%. HEB has already made this switch, wal mart is doing it. Adding a genset decreases the amount of time spent idling. Both these upgrades pay for themselves in a year or two with fuel savings.

Walmart is also planning on doubling its fleet mpg in the next few years. They claim they can do it, but going from 6.5mpg to 13mpg is going to take a small miracle.
You are not speaking of independent truckers. It's a whole lot easier for HEB and Walmart to upgrade their fleets, but Joe Trucker out there, that's been making an honest, decent living, can't make it any more. Say what you will, but that is going to hurt.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:43 PM
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You are not speaking of independent truckers. It's a whole lot easier for HEB and Walmart to upgrade their fleets, but Joe Trucker out there, that's been making an honest, decent living, can't make it any more. Say what you will, but that is going to hurt.
I disagree. They can either invest in their rigs or go work for someone who can. These investments pay for themselves in a very short period of time.

So the independent may have to go to bank to borrow the money to make the investment, but the fuel savings will pay for the note. If they choose not to do it, they will be put out of business by someone who will.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:45 PM
 
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I disagree. They can either invest in their rigs or go work for someone who can. These investments pay for themselves in a very short period of time.

So the independent may have to go to bank to borrow the money to make the investment, but the fuel savings will pay for the note. If they choose not to do it, they will be put out of business by someone who will.
Yeah, we'll all be working for Walmart or Exxon before too long anyway.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:49 PM
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Yeah, we'll all be working for Walmart or Exxon before too long anyway.
Working for exxon is not such a bad deal, they have lots of good paying jobs. And as far as walmart goes, someone has to work retail....
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Old 04-30-2008, 06:14 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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What most people miss is that just about everything we buy (food, laundry detergent, toilet paper, etc.) is brought to stores by truck. Even if the large majority of items are transported (long-haul) by rail, most of the rail yards are quite a distance from the points-of-destination. In other words, trucks will still be required.

A complete stoppage (i.e., strike) is not necessary. The truckers would only have to stop rolling for a few days at a time to make themselves heard. The results would be spikes in prices on everything ranging from chicken to light bulbs. Go to your local Home Depot--all that stuff comes in via big trucks and all of it will likely increase in price. Same for Costco and Sam's.

--Dim
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Old 04-30-2008, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Smalltown, USA
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Until the bubble busts, just drop the lead foot and drive the speed limit.
I have been doing this. Well.... I just started it on this last tank I purchased. I am doing the speed limit but it is hard when you get a little race car on your tail and you can't even see their headlights .

I have done this before and I went from 17mpg to 21 mpg. Not bad for just slowing down. Amazing enough, it doesn't even take me any more time to get to work or home from work.

Now I just need a bumper sticker that says "get off my a$$, I'm saving gas" .

I have also noticed that the car pool parking lots are getting full so that means more people are riding together. Yes, I am one of those who drive a truck with only one person in it but I don't live in town so I can't take advantage of the public transportation and I don't know anyone who works close to me who I could car pool with. I can't switch to a car because I need my truck for personal needs, whats a girl to do?
My husband does car pool with another guy so he only drives every other week, that saves us a LOT of gas money.
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