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Old 05-22-2008, 06:59 AM
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H-E-B Eases Worries Over Store Closure | WOAI.COM: San Antonio News

HEB is closing the store on S. Presa, but to ease the residents' concerns about not having a grocery store they could get to, they've partnered with VIA to offer free rides to their new open-air market at McCreless Mall. That's pretty cool!
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:06 AM
 
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As a resident who occasionally uses that HEB, I'm afraid I disagree.

Many many residents WALK to that HEB. Many Many residents in the immediate area work multiple jobs to get by, and having a neighborhood store they can go to easily is VERY IMPORTANT. Even with bus service, it will become a hardship for many in the area.

HEB is also closing the store on Fair Ave.

This helps a neighborhood revitalize HOW? Shame shame on HEB. They should be re-invigorating these stores, not closing them down. It certainly isn't from lack of use. Both stores are always packed. They're not very "good" HEBs, quality of meat esp has always been very poor, and they're not kept up at all. But we don't need HEB+ or massive stores with aisles of cereal.
In downtown we DO need easy access to groceries though, and they're taking away one of the few options downtown/southtown/lavaca residents have.

Typical San Antonio business with lack of foresight, focusing on the mega-suburbs and not giving a darn about the inner city. This whole area is finally coming back to life. This is the time for grocery stores to OPEN, to expand. Not close.

My only hope is that now some independent grocery stores will take advantage of the poor decisions by HEB and move into the area.

btw - they make it sound like it's close by. It's a significant difference in travel time and convenience. One of the reasons we use the S Presa HEB is because it's smaller and much easier to get to.

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Old 05-22-2008, 07:13 AM
 
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H-E-B Eases Worries Over Store Closure | WOAI.COM: San Antonio News

HEB is closing the store on S. Presa, but to ease the residents' concerns about not having a grocery store they could get to, they've partnered with VIA to offer free rides to their new open-air market at McCreless Mall. That's pretty cool!
I think it is great that HEB has teamed up with VIA. They could have shut the store down and not even bothered with trying to get people a ride to the new store.
It is not HEB's problem to make sure everyone has a convenient grocery store nearby. I have to drive 25 miles to the nearest HEB, you don't see me crying because they don't have one next door.

I agree Chaka, I think it would be great if another grocery store would take over the location. But, I don't see it as being HEB's fault/problem.
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:23 AM
 
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HEB claims to support the community. They claim to be a community oriented business.

They don't give a darn about the community.

If they did they wouldn't be CLOSING grocery stores. This isn't a rural, sparsely populated area. This is a HIGH density area undergoing a major revitalization effort. HUGE difference.

Area residents are trying hard to get another grocery store in. But this is still a low-income area for the most part. Such residents tend not to have the political power for such an effort. Those of us that can, are trying to make a difference.

Sorry. I just can't applaud HEB for doing something which is creating a hardship for the community (not to mention increasing the need for vehicle travel - even if by bus, that's that many more buses that need to consume fuel on the roads).

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Old 05-22-2008, 09:45 AM
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Well, bottom line is, HEB is a business first. You can't expect them to keep an unprofitable store up and running. Or any store, for that matter, if they have a business reason for closing it. Community support only goes so far--they're not going to do it at a loss to themselves, be it right or wrong. They didn't even have to arrange transportation, but they did.
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:54 AM
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I have a relative who has worked for stores of another large grocery chain for 20+ years in a couple of very urban locations. He has all kinds of stories about how expensive it is for his company to operate there due to the high theft, damage to cars in the parking lot and employee turnover. It's not surprising to me that HEB would want to pull out of the downtown area.

As much as people sometimes dislike government subsidies, I think the only way to maintain grocery stores near San Antonio's urban core would be to put them in enterprise zones or offer some kind of tax incentives. If urban renewal is indeed on the city's agenda, then council and the mayor should consider those steps. Otherwise the dominant retail in those areas vacated by HEB will become c-stores and payday loan operations. For the sake of doing this inexpensively, the city should make these offers to HEB before they vacate the stores, rather than using them in a few years to lure a replacement.
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:59 AM
 
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Bottom line with HEB is MONOPOLY first. It is rediculous that we have only ONE grocery store choice in San Antonio. (Whole Foods and Sun Market are boutique stores).

To add insult to injury, the idea that they're closing this store - when we all know full well that this is one of the most profitable chains in the entire country (how could they not be - they control the ENTIRE market for a HUGE city). It's sick.

With all of their money I'm sure they could keep this store open, stock it, pay employees and make all of the food FREE and still not make a dent in their huge profit margins.

wake up.
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:02 AM
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Bottom line with HEB is MONOPOLY first. It is rediculous that we have only ONE grocery store choice in San Antonio. (Whole Foods and Sun Market are boutique stores).

To add insult to injury, the idea that they're closing this store - when we all know full well that this is one of the most profitable chains in the entire country (how could they not be - they control the ENTIRE market for a HUGE city). It's sick.

With all of their money I'm sure they could keep this store open, stock it, pay employees and make all of the food FREE and still not make a dent in their huge profit margins.

wake up.
And I'm sure if it were your company, that's what you'd do. I believe you.
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:06 AM
 
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And I'm sure if it were your company, that's what you'd do. I believe you.

I'm not saying they would or should do that...saying they COULD. It's a Monopoly!
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:09 AM
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I'm not saying they would or should do that...saying they COULD. It's a Monopoly!
Well, everybody was singing their praises not too long ago--back when we had more choices. Albertson's and Kroger packed up and left because people overwhelmingly chose to shop at HEB. Now all of a sudden everyone hates them.
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