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Old 05-27-2008, 08:39 AM
 
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Not everyone wants to live in the city...I love the burbs...and would change my mode of transportation before I would go to a dense urban center. And the reason Europe and Asia don't have the same kind of urban sprawl is because they don't have as much land as in the grand USofA. I like space. I too have lived in Germany and they have suburbs...just not the same as in the US. Also - it is a choice. As long as people continue to make the choice to live in the suburbs the neighborhoods and retail locations will continue to be built.
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
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it's scary how freedom of choice is almost a foreign phrase these days.. almost like someone is setting us up for a trip down the path of good old socialism.. I'd personally rather fight a civil war, but that's just me..

and to be on topic, how many of these threads do we need anyhow? It's almost catching up with the "I might move to SA and have a question that's already been asked and answered a trillion times, but I'll ask it again because I am that freaking special.." threads
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Old 05-27-2008, 09:24 AM
 
Location: san antonio
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I hate it. AND I hate all these new people coming in here and crowding our city!
BUT! I guess we have to embrace change dont we? OR START KILLING THEM OFF ONE BY ONE....
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Old 05-27-2008, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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[quote=cwh;3893140] until gas is cheap again(it will be, oil is a boom/bust industry). THe auto will get better, the new hybrid tahoe is an example. [quote]

SA dreamer....dream on! Peak oil is here, get ready for HIGHER prices.
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Old 05-27-2008, 12:40 PM
 
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[quote=manthechange;3897368][quote=cwh;3893140] until gas is cheap again(it will be, oil is a boom/bust industry). THe auto will get better, the new hybrid tahoe is an example.
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SA dreamer....dream on! Peak oil is here, get ready for HIGHER prices.
No kidding. I do believe high gas prices are here to stay. We may see a temporary drop back to the mid to low $3.00 range - but we will never see "cheap" gas again. But that said - I still believe that the suburban lifestyle will continue - people will just start driving smaller more fuel efficient vehicles.
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Old 05-27-2008, 01:38 PM
 
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Default Where will the deer go?

It makes me sad. I recently had to make a move. At first I really wanted an older home in a nice neighborhood because I didn't want to contribute to urban sprawl. I always feel so bad about how animals are displaced.
But all the homes that I looked at in my price range were just plain gross (moldy, musty, dirty, foundation problems, etc..). I don't mind cleaning up a dirty house. But I didn't want to pay 150K for a house that needed a lot of fixing up. So I went to KB to get a home built. I felt awful, but I just couldn't find a used house that I wanted. Well.. while my realtor, seller and I were looking at lots, I saw about 3 deer huddled together in the distance watching workers build houses.(probably wandering what was happening to their grazing area) I started feeling even more awful. For that and some other reasons, I decided again that I didn't want a new house.
But I guess I'm still a little bit of a hippocrit. I found a 1 year old house that was pretty close to what I wanted. I told my self that it was someone else who displaced the deer since the house was already built before I bought it.

I just wish that time and energy could be spent revitalizing old neighborhoods before we keep clearing land to make new ones.

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Aren't you all getting tired of all of this suburban development everywhere around here. Y'all seem to like it for some reason.

I guess living in Europe for a while changed my attitude. I used to get excited whenever a new strip mall popped up or a new subdivision was being built.

Look at 1604. 10 years ago much of it was countryside along the Northeast and Northwest areas. Now they're getting more and more filled up with strip malls and houses.

Hopefully gas prices and commodity prices will stop all of this sprawl. It's way too wasteful

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Old 05-27-2008, 01:40 PM
 
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Sometimes I wish that gas would go to 10 dollars a gallon so then it would be more economical to seriously consider solar energy or there would be enough bikers on the road to make it safe to bike.

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until gas is cheap again(it will be, oil is a boom/bust industry). THe auto will get better, the new hybrid tahoe is an example.

No kidding. I do believe high gas prices are here to stay. We may see a temporary drop back to the mid to low $3.00 range - but we will never see "cheap" gas again. But that said - I still believe that the suburban lifestyle will continue - people will just start driving smaller more fuel efficient vehicles.
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Old 05-27-2008, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Smalltown, USA
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[quote=shenane;3898141]Sometimes I wish that gas would go to 10 dollars a gallon so then it would be more economical to seriously consider solar energy or there would be enough bikers on the road to make it safe to bike.

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Be careful what you ask for. It may be sooner than we think. The price of gas increasing will not only affect what kind of transportation is used on the roads.
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Old 05-27-2008, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Norfolk, VA
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Until there is a mass transit system developed, unless people start MAJOR carpooling or limiting their trips, the gas price problem will continue. The key is to start drilling at home (I love you, environmentalists) and start building newer refineries. The point is, we have gotten to a point where we can no longer afford to be dependent on foreign oil.
Hopefully, automobiles that run strictly on solar energy or some form of solar power (battery pack?!?) will be developed to eliminate the need for oil drilling. Get 'er done Ford/Chevrolet/GM/Toyota...
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Old 05-27-2008, 04:10 PM
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Sometimes I wish that gas would go to 10 dollars a gallon so then it would be more economical to seriously consider solar energy or there would be enough bikers on the road to make it safe to bike.
Solar and gas are largely disconnected. High gas prices will not make not make solar more attractive as the two are not interchangeable. The only way to make them interchangeable is use more solar for electricity and then take natural gas or coal that was used to make electricity and turn it into gas.
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