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Old 05-26-2008, 10:21 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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Aren't you all getting tired of all of this suburban development everywhere around here. Y'all seem to like it for some reason.

I guess living in Europe for a while changed my attitude. I used to get excited whenever a new strip mall popped up or a new subdivision was being built.

Look at 1604. 10 years ago much of it was countryside along the Northeast and Northwest areas. Now they're getting more and more filled up with strip malls and houses.

Hopefully gas prices and commodity prices will stop all of this sprawl. It's way too wasteful
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:25 PM
 
Location: SoCal-So Proud!
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Aren't you all getting tired of all of this suburban development everywhere around here. Y'all seem to like it for some reason.

I guess living in Europe for a while changed my attitude. I used to get excited whenever a new strip mall popped up or a new subdivision was being built.

Look at 1604. 10 years ago much of it was countryside along the Northeast and Northwest areas. Now they're getting more and more filled up with strip malls and houses.

Hopefully gas prices and commodity prices will stop all of this sprawl. It's way too wasteful
I like it...keep it comin'. Git 'er done!
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:25 PM
 
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I am getting tired of it. Wasteful is a good description. Greedy is another.

I am all for progress, but I almost think we're beyond that...
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Old 05-26-2008, 11:01 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Unfortunately wherever you have a large city, you get "sprawl". Europe, my dear, is not immune! Have you never taken a train (or driven) into a major European metro area? London, Paris, Munich, Frankfurt, Rome, heck, even the water-bound Amsterdam, etc.... ALL have "suburbia". It's less expensive to live there than in the middle of a city (do you know how much it would cost a small family of four to live in the middle of Paris?! Dude!). Strip malls aren't exciting, but what is also not exciting (and expensive) is driving or commuting many miles for basics (drycleaner, grocery store, etc.). And I'm not just yammering. I LIVE in Europe RIGHT NOW. No, strip malls aren't lovely, but somehow necessary. Sub-Divisions (as unpleasant as you think they are) house the people that keep the city's industries functioning. It is not practical nor logical to think a city can progress without it.

DO cities tend to get over-developed? Yes. Can it be done smarter? Inevitably. But how do you tell a city not to grow and prosper? In some of the large metropolitan areas in the US there is significantly more land in which to spread out (than in Europe, or even the US upper East coast) -- look at Phoenix, DFW, Chicago, Atlanta, Denver -- even Oklahoma City!

Gas prices WILL affect some of this. It will also cause cities to find new alternatives for commuting and doing business. This will probably be good for most people in the long run (though painful in the short term).

No one will ever tell you, that you must live in the 'burbs. You have the wonderful choice to live where you choose. Please see this as a freedom.

In two weeks we're moving our sweet, precious children back to America to a lovely new home and good schools smack dab in the middle of SA's suburbia. You have no idea how excited we are to be coming there (no, I don't hate Europe -- I love it enormously). And those sometimes unattractive strip malls will save me gas and time. I will be thrilled to have them.

Last edited by 42JetSet; 05-26-2008 at 11:26 PM.. Reason: a couple of unintentionally "too harsh" statements on re-read. :~}
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Old 05-26-2008, 11:02 PM
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Given the option of living in a condo/apartment or in suburbia, I will take suburbia every time. While suburbia might be less efficient than apartments/condos, it is price worth paying to have more than a few inches of poorly insulated walls of separation from your neighbors.
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Old 05-26-2008, 11:47 PM
 
Location: northside san antonio
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I love all the suburban sprawl.

Beautiful homes, beautiful people.

Living in a dense urban area is just plain gross.
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Old 05-27-2008, 12:01 AM
 
Location: 78245
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Good point SW, I like it too. The one thing I would like more of is if you build a strip mall, try to keep some trees and places to sit outside so that it's not all black top.
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Old 05-27-2008, 12:30 AM
 
Location: northside san antonio
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Good point SW, I like it too. The one thing I would like more of is if you build a strip mall, try to keep some trees and places to sit outside so that it's not all black top.
Trees and places to sit?
Go to a park.

Strip malls are for shopping!

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Old 05-27-2008, 12:32 AM
 
Location: southern california
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dont know the area but ditto
high gas will turn bedroom communities into ghost towns.
public transport lines with be the life line of out of city communities.
changes ahead.
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Old 05-27-2008, 05:17 AM
cwh
 
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dont know the area but ditto
high gas will turn bedroom communities into ghost towns.
public transport lines with be the life line of out of city communities.
changes ahead.
Changes are ahead, but it is going to be more of the same. People will switch to more practical cars until gas is cheap again(it will be, oil is a boom/bust industry). THe auto will get better, the new hybrid tahoe is an example. It gets 20/22, which is quite awesome for such a large vehicle. Within a few years most cars will have a hybrid option and our fuel comsumpton as a nation will begin plummet.
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