Teacher pay (Howe: middle school, closing, taxi)

[annie_annie]

Originally Posted by firstclassflyer

Better THEM than ME, I guess....My goal is to make as much as possible...and work as little as possible.

I'm with you there!

[sapphire]

Originally Posted by annie_annie

No because oddly enough...I never hear them complain about their jobs. They just get up and do it. I guess they just find something very satisfying in putting in an honest day's work.

Well, I just went back and re-read the posts on here, and I see no teachers complaining. Looks like they just get up and do it. I guess they find something satisfying about putting in an honest day's work.

We are going to have to agree to disagree about it being a tough job. Obviously you think it's not, I think it is. No big deal.

[slaleman]

Originally Posted by annie_annie

I just have to laugh over this. I have a cousin in the army over in Iraq that has to worry about getting his head blown off 24/7. A friend of mine was an over the road truck driver that was hit by a woman in a car and had to be hospitalized for several weeks. My husband is a welder that had to watch as his co-worker was pulled out (dead) from underneath a metal wall that fell and crushed him. I watched a co-worker's eyes become huge when he sliced his finger on a vial of blood that could have contained any number of blood borne pathogens. Teachers have a tough job? Sorry, I disagree.

I hate to say this, but whatever career you're in is a choice...whether you chose to go to college and get a degree to start a career or if you chose to not pay attention in school and have to take what you can get, it's still a choice. If you don't like it, find something else to do. Don't whine about how hard your job is and then do nothing to better yourself and change your life.

Here's the thing...the people who go into the military know full well what the risks are going in, as do construction workers, garbage workers, teachers, doctors, whatever. Just because a job isn't dangerous (which teaching is sometimes) or physically difficult doesn't mean it's not a tough job. You try keeping a 30 hormonal teenagers or 25 5 year olds engaged and on task for a whole day.

And just for the record, I never said that teachers had it rough. I said that there would be people here that would take issue with your assumption that teachers only work 10 months out of the year. Teaching is by no means a 9-5 job with two months off every year. There is a lot of work behind the scenes that most people will never see (or appreciate).

[annie_annie]

Oh I knock teachers all the time. I'm the first one to say, "Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach." If that makes people mad at me, I'm ok with that.

[ChrisSA]

Originally Posted by annie_annie

No because oddly enough...I never hear them complain about their jobs. They just get up and do it. I guess they just find something very satisfying in putting in an honest day's work.

I am career military and my girlfriend is a 1st grade teacher. She does get summers off but believe me she earns them. If you don't think controlling 18 - 6 year old children is difficult and at the same time trying to teach them to read, then you are obviously here just trying to start an argument.

[msunrullieone]

Originally Posted by annie_annie

No because oddly enough...I never hear them complain about their jobs. They just get up and do it. I guess they just find something very satisfying in putting in an honest day's work.

Being retired military myself and now a teacher, I can tell you that teaching is definitely an honest day's work and then some! Dealing with a 4th grader who is afraid she might be pregnant; kids who bring weapons to school; reporting cases of abuse time after time; kids who only eat at school; working with fetal alcohol syndrome children, etc is no day in the park either.

I didnt notice any one complaining about their jobs, rather addressing the misperception about summers off and working 8-3.

(No, I wasn't in Iraq, but I did spend some time in Somalia back in the day---so I do know what stress is like.)

[ChrisSA]

Originally Posted by annie_annie

Oh I knock teachers all the time. I'm the first one to say, "Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach." If that makes people mad at me, I'm ok with that.

Another good quote is "if you can read this, thank a teacher"

[Chaka]

Originally Posted by slaleman

I hate to say this, but whatever career you're in is a choice...whether you chose to go to college and get a degree to start a career or if you chose to not pay attention in school and have to take what you can get, it's still a choice. If you don't like it, find something else to do. Don't whine about how hard your job is and then do nothing to better yourself and change your life.

Just for the record....some of us complain about our jobs, even if we love what we do. Some days are just hard.

[annie_annie]

Originally Posted by slaleman

I hate to say this, but whatever career you're in is a choice...whether you chose to go to college and get a degree to start a career or if you chose to not pay attention in school and have to take what you can get, it's still a choice. If you don't like it, find something else to do. Don't whine about how hard your job is and then do nothing to better yourself and change your life.

Couldn't agree more. I taught for a little while (substitute, which granted really isn't the full picture) and couldn't stand it. So I pursued other things.

[slaleman]

Originally Posted by annie_annie

Oh I knock teachers all the time. I'm the first one to say, "Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach." If that makes people mad at me, I'm ok with that.

I've linked to it before and since the message didn't get through, I'll link to it again:


YouTube - Taylor Mali on what teachers make

And by the way, part of the reason teachers have a tough job is because of that kind of attitude...most of the teachers I know could have chosen to go a different route and into whatever field they teach (and probably made a killing doing it), but they chose, instead to share their knowledge with YOUR children.

Where would you be without an education?