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Old 07-29-2008, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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Oh yeah, another couple of data points. No solar screens, no radiant barrier. What I think really helps out is the 20 inches of blown-in insulation. Except for right around the furnaces, there's a freaking ton of the stuff in there.
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:17 PM
 
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Oh yeah, another couple of data points. No solar screens, no radiant barrier. What I think really helps out is the 20 inches of blown-in insulation. Except for right around the furnaces, there's a freaking ton of the stuff in there.
I would love to add more insullation...and probably will next spring. We have about 14 inches. I tried to have them add more (at my cost) but the insulation guy argued that I should wait and let it settle so I could request the builder to add additional after it settles below the required energy star level. He said then he would bring me up to about 20 inches +/-. Sounds like the extra half foot makes a big difference.
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:59 PM
 
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First - no I get no special rates.
Second - my house is electric and gas (cooktop/water heater/furnace)
And my house is 2,775 square feet on the first floor with 9 and 10 foot ceilings nearly all exposed to the attic (which is less efficient than having an air conditioned second floor above it. The guest bedroom/bath that is upstairs is 440 square feet and is above the den. I do know that excessive attic exposure drives up the bill when compared to a full two story.
We have double pane low e with argon windows and an energy star certified insulation package. The unit is a single five ton running three thermostatically controlled zones - which is less efficient in some circumstances than two units...but was the "best" option I could get during the design phase.
Our temp range is 77 degrees between 6:00 AM and 8:00 AM (while getting ready), 79 degrees between 8:00 AM and 7:00 PM and 78 degrees between 7:00 PM and 6:00 AM. We did the same temp spread in our last house for the hot months (June/July/August) and then bring it cooler as the exterior temp drops. I just can't see keeping a house so cold when it is near 100 degrees outside.

Anyway - I had high hopes for the first month as was disapointed to say the least.

I would be too. I have more to cool on the 2nd floor (but 700 less square footage all together) but I do so at the same temp levels as you; I have a living area above the garage; my home is not energy star (like yours); all electric [no gas]; and I consult/work from home a great deal so I'm running my stereo/LCD/PC/range more than presumably somebody who left everything off for 8-10 hours/5 days a week, but my bill is lower (even inc. city services)! But, I don't have kids... so that certainly factors in... still, not bad. Perhaps your extra sq. footage is at play.

One of my friends paid ~$400 on her last CPS bill and she lives in a townhome!


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Age= 5 years. (paid cash and 4 sides brick )
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Niiiice... do you have a home close to your Europe office too?

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Old 07-29-2008, 01:10 PM
 
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One thing to factor in...my wife is a stay at home mom with our kids. So power is being used during the day. Not sure how much of an impact that has.
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Old 07-29-2008, 01:24 PM
 
Location: SoCal-So Proud!
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Same with us. Wife, MIL and son at home all day.
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Old 07-29-2008, 01:27 PM
 
Location: SoCal-So Proud!
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Niiiice... do you have a home close to your Europe office too?
Yes, it's commonly known as the Hilton.
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Old 07-29-2008, 01:41 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Tx
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why is CPS just raising the prices on the "common people" of this city. Some of the people , which are not like "those north side" people dont have a high-paying job , and its affects the most.
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Old 07-29-2008, 05:32 PM
 
Location: NW San Antonio
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My June bill was 405, dont even want to see July. 2500 sq ft, 2 story, not really efficient, but new ac last oct. good insulation, but now dbl windows, or solar. ac at 78 mostly, people at home all time. dogs and kids in and out. all electric. Also, garage converted to extra bedroom, with window unit.
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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One thing to factor in...my wife is a stay at home mom with our kids. So power is being used during the day. Not sure how much of an impact that has.
My fiance and one roomate are here most of the time, so same kind of story here too.
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why is CPS just raising the prices on the "common people" of this city. Some of the people , which are not like "those north side" people dont have a high-paying job , and its affects the most.
What on earth are you talking about? There's no way rates can vary by zip code.

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Old 07-30-2008, 06:20 AM
 
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I checked my bill online to compare the kwh useage from this year to last and in my current house (new 3,221 square foot house) I used 1,735 kwh, last year (which was very cool and wet) I used 1,209 kwh (for a 1,732 square foot 25 year old home but with a new in 10/2005 14-SEER unit). In July of 2006 (which was much hotter than 2007 and more lin line with what we have had this year) my old 1,732 square foot house used 1,609 kwh. So - with that in mind my bill isn't that bad. To add 1,500 square feet and only use about 126 more kwh is amazing. Less than a 10% increase. The kicker was comparing the fuel adjustment. I don't have the 2006 fuel adjustment - but last years was .01414/kwh. This year it is .038/kwh. That represents a $42 increase just in the fuel adjustment alone over last years rates!!!! That is crazy.

Now that I have compared my actual useage over my last house I am quite pleased. It is the fuel adjustment that is killing all of us. Hopefully now that oil and natural gas are going back down - that will decrease as well.
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