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View Poll Results: Shouldn't we be allowed to vote on new taxes?
Yes 11 78.57%
No 3 21.43%
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Old 07-09-2008, 01:28 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Shouldn't we be given the opportunity to vote on additional taxes?

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Old 07-09-2008, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC & San Antonio, TX
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From the Express-News article:
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Despite the scope of the project, the biggest controversy has been whether to put the bond project before voters. County Judge Nelson Wolff and Commissioner Paul Elizondo said they were worried too many controversial items were on the November ballot, including the vote on City Council term limits, to take a risk when a legal alternative was available... <snip>... Rapid inflation in construction costs and a lack of time to lay out a case to voters also were factors.
A family member employed at UHS told me they've been working on this bond issue for over a year, and are only just now saying "there's no time to educate voters". That's code for "we don't think it will pass, so we're just going to risk ramming this one through."

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“I believe that when you have a major issue, that the voters elect you to make the hard decisions,” Wolff told the San Antonio Express-News Editorial Board on Monday. “If they don't like what you do, they can certainly kick you out of office. I think this is an extremely important decision, and one that I'm certainly willing to support.”
Spoken like a man who knows he will NEVER be voted out of office, no matter what he does. Now his son... that's another matter.
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Western Bexar County
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Hmmmm, Taxation without representation and July 4th. I dunno, something that happened in the past keeps sticking in my head?
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:46 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Does anyone know how much tax businesses pay near the hospital? (I could probably look it up, but I'm feeling lazy this morning.)

The reason I ask is that I have seen other areas create a "commercial tax district" to pay for infrastructure (including hospital) improvements. Basically, the local businesses foot most of the bill in the form of use taxes. Yes, costs increase slightly, but for the most part the difference is negligable.

--Dim
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Old 07-10-2008, 09:38 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Does anyone know how much tax businesses pay near the hospital? (I could probably look it up, but I'm feeling lazy this morning.)

The reason I ask is that I have seen other areas create a "commercial tax district" to pay for infrastructure (including hospital) improvements. Basically, the local businesses foot most of the bill in the form of use taxes. Yes, costs increase slightly, but for the most part the difference is negligable.

--Dim
Are you talking about something like a TIF or TIRZ? Those are generally used to pay for infrastructure like streets and utilities in a redevelopment or new development area. Since UHS is a community-wide asset, the whole community should really pay for it. There are very few non-medical businesses in the immediate area of University Hospital anyway (some fast-food restaurants, a hotel, and a couple of banks.) Not much more (maybe even less) around Brandy Green.
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Old 07-10-2008, 10:09 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Yeah, I suppose you're right, HwyMan. I guess what really gets me is that this tax hike won't be suddenly taken away once the hospital construction is completed. The city will simply continue to get the money and allocate it elsewhere. Perhaps that's cynical, but I think the majority of us would agree that it's likely to happen.

--Dim
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Old 07-10-2008, 03:13 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Yeah, I suppose you're right, HwyMan. I guess what really gets me is that this tax hike won't be suddenly taken away once the hospital construction is completed. The city will simply continue to get the money and allocate it elsewhere. Perhaps that's cynical, but I think the majority of us would agree that it's likely to happen.

--Dim
Well, you're probably right that the tax won't go away once the bonds have been paid-off (which will be a long time from now), but the money doesn't go to the city, it goes to the University Health System (formerly the Bexar County Hospital District), which is a seperate governmental agency chartered by the county. The tax is a seperate line item on your tax bill, so it has to go to UHS.
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