Can someone please explain all the graffiti in San Antonio? (school, live)

[gwrober]

We had a ton of graffitti in Westcreek not long ago - a majority of it was caused by a handful of young teens in the apts. at Military and 1604 - they were finally caught and arrested. We still get tags here and there tho.

[TexasWeatherman]

Originally Posted by TexasWeatherman

stand by. I'm digging up facts. I'm a little quicker with the weather facts (see by contribution to the CPS thread), so this might take a few minutes...

The 78227 zip code includes the stretch of 410 from 151 to 90. According to data on city-data.com, the average household income in 2005 was 33,537. 10.3% of residents had 1999 incomes less than half the poverty level. Estimated average house/condo value in 2005 was 64523.

Compare these numbers to numbers from 78253, which includes Alamo Ranch. The average 2005 average household income was 67,162, twice the income in 78227. 1.1% of residents had incomes less than half the poverty level, a tenth the rate in 78227. Estimated house/condo value in 05 was 150066.

Thuggery have very fast cars with big exhaust pipes. The five minute drive from 78227 to 78253 is not much of an obstacle for them. They can easily pay for the gas with a few stolen rims.

Note that I am NOT bashing Alamo Ranch. It's on my list of potential places to move to. Just don't think of it as an enclave completely isolated from SA's problems.

[sapphire]

Originally Posted by Steel Man

Maybe part of the Great Northwest off of Culebra and Les Harrison Drive?

Hidden Meadow. Not technically part of the GNW at least as far as the HOA is concerned, but yes, lower income.

[GoTexan]

Originally Posted by TexasWeatherman

The 78227 zip code includes the stretch of 410 from 151 to 90. According to data on city-data.com, the average household income in 2005 was 33,537. 10.3% of residents had 1999 incomes less than half the poverty level. Estimated average house/condo value in 2005 was 64523.

Compare these numbers to numbers from 78253, which includes Alamo Ranch. The average 2005 average household income was 67,162, twice the income in 78227. 1.1% of residents had incomes less than half the poverty level, a tenth the rate in 78227. Estimated house/condo value in 05 was 150066.

Thuggery have very fast cars with big exhaust pipes. The five minute drive from 78227 to 78253 is not much of an obstacle for them. They can easily pay for the gas with a few stolen rims.

Note that I am NOT bashing Alamo Ranch. It's on my list of potential places to move to. Just don't think of it as an enclave completely isolated from SA's problems.

tada!

Thanks for the numbers.

Another thing to note, is that being in AR, you would be an easy target since you are clustered together and have nice new toys. Thugs like that. So buy security cams!

[nw4life]

Yep i was driving with my wife and daughter back fromheb and noticed that they got the mama margie's as well as almost every homebuilder sign i saw. I really wish we could get rid of these people, go to school, do something with your lives we really don't care to know your tags. They will get something though if i catch them in my neighborhood doing something to my property.

[nw4life]

Originally Posted by texasweatherman

the 78227 zip code includes the stretch of 410 from 151 to 90. According to data on city-data.com, the average household income in 2005 was 33,537. 10.3% of residents had 1999 incomes less than half the poverty level. Estimated average house/condo value in 2005 was 64523.

Compare these numbers to numbers from 78253, which includes alamo ranch. The average 2005 average household income was 67,162, twice the income in 78227. 1.1% of residents had incomes less than half the poverty level, a tenth the rate in 78227. Estimated house/condo value in 05 was 150066.

Thuggery have very fast cars with big exhaust pipes. The five minute drive from 78227 to 78253 is not much of an obstacle for them. They can easily pay for the gas with a few stolen rims.

Note that i am not bashing alamo ranch. It's on my list of potential places to move to. Just don't think of it as an enclave completely isolated from sa's problems.

i agree 78227 has some poverty but 5 min away not really. Most of these taggers come from the other side of 1604 from us probably that hidden meadow area. Believe me people from 78227 are the marbach and military taggers!

[metalfish]

Alamo Ranch is not very far from a lot of very poor neighborhoods with thuggery who can find nothing better to do. Just try to think like the liberal democrats/big-business republicans who call illegal aliens undocumented persons. It's not illegal grafitti; it's unattributed decoration.

You mean illegal aliens arent human beings!? I will remember never to call them persons or people from now on.

[SilverCreek78250]

I'd be interested in knowing what some of the tags were you saw in Alamo Ranch (specific letters, names etc). I have a pretty good feel for what tags originate from my area - being that I tend to paint over so much of it!

My mother-in-law lives in 78227 and I am very familiar with the area. I have never seen any of the same tags beyond say 151 and Military. I'm no expert, but I doubt these guys say, "hey, let's go take a road trip to the rich area and tag the place up." It is more of a territorial thing.

Don't be shocked to find out that a kid who comes from well to do parents goes to junior high or high school with a kid who has been brought up in the tagger lifestyle and he wants to try this sort of vandalism. The difference has nothing to do with finances. The reason why you see tagging so prevalent along the Military/Marbach/Ellison area is that the people there simply don't clean it up. There is tagging all around, but in more affluent neighborhoods, the people (or the people managing the place) are more concerend about home values, and they clean it up.

This city council, DA and Mayor couldn't give a crap about tagging as long as it doesn't involve bikinis, boobies or car washes. Meanwhile, little thugs, both poor and not so poor, enjoy tagging up the place and unless the police specifically see them do it and catch them with the paint on their person, don't expect anything to come of it.

You can help by painting over it as soon as you see it. You don't have to be a city official.

[gwrober]

Well said, SC.

[yosoyway]

The corner of Culebra and Westwind or Westwood got it's share of art decoration some time after 11:30pm Saturday night and Sunday morning.

I was at Sonic at 11:30pm and I didn't see any tagging at that time. But by Sunday morning Mama Margie's was tagged, AR Market Place where the Starbucks will be was tagged, and several signs by Arby's were tagged.