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03-09-2007, 09:11 PM
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San Antonio doesn't want NYC style development. Consumer demand drives development. If San Antonio wanted dense urban development, developers would recognize it and capitalize on it. No one wants it, or needs it. In Texas, there is land a plenty and people here want a yard for their swingset. It is apparent that people in Stone Oak think it is a pretty good place, because they have the resources to move somewhere else if they didn't.
Almighty dollar for the developers? Sure they made money, but I don't see people fleeing Stone Oak because they feel they got ripped off. Wasn't Manhattan purchased from the Native Americans for beads?!!! Talk about money being made by exploitation!
NYC has 400 years on Stone Oak in creating footprints. In 2407, I would imagine that Stone Oak will have more efficient living than it does today. Everyone's happy in Stone Oak regardless of someone else's opinions.
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03-09-2007, 09:34 PM
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San Antonio doesn't want NYC style development. Consumer demand drives development. <b>If San Antonio wanted dense urban development, developers would recognize it and capitalize on it. No one wants it, or needs it.</b> In Texas, there is land a plenty and people here want a yard for their swingset. It is apparent that people in Stone Oak think it is a pretty good place, because they have the resources to move somewhere else if they didn't.
Almighty dollar for the developers? Sure they made money, but I don't see people fleeing Stone Oak because they feel they got ripped off. Wasn't Manhattan purchased from the Native Americans for beads?!!! Talk about money being made by <b>exploitation! </b>
NYC has 400 years on Stone Oak in creating footprints. In 2407, I would imagine that Stone Oak will have more efficient living than it does today. Everyone's happy in Stone Oak regardless of someone else's opinions.
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A couple questions:
1. Should people always get whatever they want? This suburbanization you claim people are clamoring for is killing us as surely as if we all put guns to our heads. Sprawl requires cars. Cars require petroleum. Our demand for petroleum has gotten America in a lot of trouble in the Middle East. The burning of fossil feuls is causing the temperature to rise. Is it a coincidence that the area is in severe drought and water is so scarce that it is endangering the future of this city that I care about? This idea that whatever the market will sustain is a good thing is short-sighted. There are, however, a couple developments going up downtown that look quite promising. Perhaps when the economic reality of endless sprawl catches up with us there will be more such developments.
2. Exploitation in America occurs most often when people don't know they're being exploited. Read Orwell's <i>Animal Farm</i> (I'm aware that it's an allegory for Stalinist Russia, but it's a good example of what you can get away with when the masses are convinced to act against their own best interest to benefit the few).
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03-10-2007, 12:21 AM
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Severe drought and water being so scarce that it is endangering the future of San Antonio???
Droughts are commonplace in San Antonio and this is nothing severe. The aquifer is at 662.4' today. 1959 holds the record for the aquifer's record low (Landa Park went dry). The record high was June '92 at 703.3'.
The notion of global warming causing this so called "drought" doesn't hold water (I couldn't help myself). We all pay taxes so the Edwards Aquifer Authority regulates the annual withdrawal to below 400,000 ac-ft. That is what is deemed an acceptable annual draw. Current development is all within regulations.
Good info on the Edwards Aquifer historical levels.
[url]http://www.edwardsaquifer.net/j17.html[url]
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03-12-2007, 10:31 AM
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All I can say is:
1. Nobody claimed its the best place to live in SA! But its certainly one of the nicer areas available in SA..
2. Not all look up to a NYC type of living!
These are facts and not opinion!! no more no less!!
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03-12-2007, 11:10 AM
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i may be in the wrong thread for this...
if so, i apologize. my family and i are potentially relocating to san antonio from houston. i'm very curious about the different communities and i see a lot here about stone oak. could some of you tell me more, or direct me to website(s) to look at?
we'd prefer to live in a nice community on the northside, in the $180-$200K range, with other young families. we're very excited to get out of the hectic big city any this site looks like a great place to get information. thanks!
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03-12-2007, 10:37 PM
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It's just the fact that stone oak really isn't anything SPECIAL. It's just a lot of newer..not terribly expensive houses... clustered together. But some make it seem like its a bubble you never have to leave, and god forbid if you do have to leave it you will be contaminated by sa filth. When in reality there are other areas nicer, yet much smaller than stone oak that are "nicer" in all terms of the word. What makes me angry about stone oak is the lots aren't huge with the houses...and theres no where to shop for high-end stuff. Maybe once I can own a house with a large lot and travel 2 miles to a fancy shop to get some designer handbags for my gf..I will consider moving there until then...It's just a newer community living its golden years..much how ...windcrest did...alamo heights...castle hills...etc..etc I'm not bashing it, because its much better than most of what the city has to offer in terms of environment...But at the same time its not really stand out in anyway.
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Per wikepedia:
Far North Central is home to many of San Antonio's most luxurious homes and one could call this area the "new money" of San Antonio. Such upscale master-planned communities in this area include The Dominion, Scenic Oaks, Sonterra and Stone Oak.
Celebrities that live in this area include "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, Bruce Bowen, Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Joe Horn, Eva Longoria, Max Lucado, Shawn Michaels, Tony Parker, Gregg Popovich, David Robinson, Malik Rose, and George Strait.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Antonio,_Texas
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03-13-2007, 08:29 AM
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Out of all those names only one person lives in Stone Oak, well, tech. Greystone. And that's Malik Rose.
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03-13-2007, 11:07 AM
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Hello Spoiler! Great post. Only problem with your post, though, is that you are asking people to THINK, and about something that is more than three feet in front of the hood of their four-story high pickup truck. You might have a shot with such ideas in a more intellectual culture, but not here.
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04-10-2007, 10:11 AM
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Thanks 210...
how about knights cross going all the way to evans?
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The Knights Cross gap was completed and it opened today. Now Knights Cross connects Stone Oak Parkway with Evans Road. Which is probably going to PO a lot of people with the increased traffic. 
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04-10-2007, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 210
The Knights Cross gap was completed and it opened today. Now Knights Cross connects Stone Oak Parkway with Evans Road. Which is probably going to PO a lot of people with the increased traffic. 
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This is a good news...
Some people who live in that part of knights cross won't be as happy though due to increase of vehicles passing there, but it is more beneficial to the majority for increase in mobilty...
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