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Old 01-23-2009, 05:43 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Old 01-23-2009, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Western Bexar County
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...Plus, I don't know where CYBERCOMMAND would be located as there really isn't any room left on Security Hill...

Cheers! M2
How about moving the administrative offices, including the Commander, out of building 2000 into another building on Security Hill? Maybe move them to where Wing HQ is?
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Old 01-23-2009, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
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I don't think Cyber would want an ancient old building like 2000. I always feel dirty when I walk over there from 2007
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Old 01-23-2009, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Western Bexar County
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I don't think Cyber would want an ancient old building like 2000. I always feel dirty when I walk over there from 2007
Hey, I worked in that "ancient old" building back in 1977!!! Old yes, ancient, no. I prefer to call it an antique building.

BTW: Does the roof still leak on the 3rd floor when it rains hard?
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Old 01-23-2009, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
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They call it historic now, so it's real hard to do any work on it. I never worked on the third floor, but I have seen that funky floor that goes up a bit for no apparent reason. When I was in 2000 I was down by the servers in the 690th and now I work in the ghetto basement of 2007.
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Old 01-23-2009, 08:22 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Steel

I used to work on the third floor and yes, it still leaks up there!

And, if you think hard, you will realize that the perfect location for CYBERCOMMAND is at a certain annex of Lackland that will open up in 2012 when a certain organization moves its operations to its new location.

Cheers! M2
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Old 01-24-2009, 04:33 AM
 
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I had a 3 year stint with the AFNOSC (now CyberCommand Provisional) and I can tell you, we had a very tough time recruiting talent to staff the agency. Not a whole lot of people see Shreveport as a destination place as they do SA. Yes, the Louisiana congressional delegation is pulling out all the stops to acquire this unit, the state has allocated at least $50 million to build a cyber innovation center a few miles down the road from the base. But, they will find the same problem - no one to staff it. I think I would put my money on either Colorado Springs or Offutt.
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Old 01-24-2009, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Helotes
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Just to clarify - there is no AF Cyber Command (though currently it is called AFCYBER (P), it will actually be 24th Air Force under Air Force Space Command. And as M2 said, don't look for 500 new jobs. I suspect Lackland (Sec Hill) has to be at the top of the list. Barksdale and Scott would not get a bet from me. C-Springs maybe. Offutt on the other hand...

I completely agree with USAF-24 about the Cyber Innovation Center. I have been there (well, what is there of it so far) and I'm not seeing a lot of people with the skill sets required (civilians and contractors - military doesn't get a choice) making the move.
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Old 01-24-2009, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
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That future place would be a good location and there is a lot of good power there, but from what I heard in 2006, there already isn't enough room for what they wanted and the parking lot is already beyond capacity. Would be a nice commute from my house, though..
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Old 01-24-2009, 09:18 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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SC78250 is right, and I continue to use the term CYBERCOMMAND despite knowing it was "downsized" to 24AF.

Either way, if I were placing bets I would put my money down on San Antonio. It is not just because I love it here (I do), I just think that there are many factors in play that make this town the best choice.

For one, it has a huge and strong military community here. Don't underestimate the power of the retired lobby.

Secondly, NSA is increasing its operations down here, and there is already a long list of people who want to come here and work for them (many of them from Ft Meade). SA has a definite draw to it, much more than Shreveport or even St Louis. Heck folks, it's Texas!

Third, mush of the USAF's Information Operations capabilities grew out of what is now known as the Air Force Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Agency (AFISRA, formerly AIA, and AFIC before that as ESC. See page seven of its history). And with the JIOWC, the joint "center of excellence" for Info Ops, also here; it only makes more sense.

Lastly, the low cost of living in San Antonio as compared with places like Colorado Springs or St Louis, it is a lot cheaper for the USAF to put it here. Trust me, that is a big factor in the decision. Plus, Texas has a very strong lobby with the huge defense industry here.

Let's keep our fingers crossed!

Cheers! M2
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