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08-04-2009, 09:26 PM
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C-ing moon from ur house doesn't make u astronaut
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well - developers wouldn't be willing to buy those single family homes from those living in them if were profitable to do so. I think - given the right lay out - it could be done and would be wildly successful. However, it seems like the chicken or the egg - which came first? which goes first?
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It's just like the stock market,
once developers know that there's gonna be a station somewhere, they know that "that stock" is cheap right now and is gonna go up in value.
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08-04-2009, 09:29 PM
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It's just like the stock market,
once developers know that there's gonna be a station somewhere, they know that "that stock" is cheap right now and is gonna go up in value.
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I tend to think that way too.
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08-05-2009, 01:18 AM
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well - developers wouldn't be willing to buy those single family homes from those living in them if were profitable to do so. I think - given the right lay out - it could be done and would be wildly successful. However, it seems like the chicken or the egg - which came first? which goes first?
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That seems like an expensive bet to me, if we're talking about an inner city rail system. I hope I make it clear I am not against a commuter rail across the 35 corridor; that would be fantastic IMO.
My suggestion is, as previously stated, is to improve the public transportation infrastructure we have in place before undertaking a project like an inner-city metro system. I think the city would benefit from more adding more bus routes and increasing bus availability outside of 410 than adding light rails to "high" traffic areas... especially when many people probably can't get to the light rail stations in the first place.
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08-05-2009, 05:15 AM
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My suggestion is, as previously stated, is to improve the public transportation infrastructure we have in place before undertaking a project like an inner-city metro system.
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Make a wild guess of what would happen if they do that ....
People are gonna start saying:
"Well, our transportation system is working fine, so why are we gonna spend money on a light-rail, besides, we already spent a bunch of money fixing our transportation system"
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08-05-2009, 08:15 AM
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hahahahaha - so true Dopo - so true
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08-05-2009, 01:26 PM
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Make a wild guess of what would happen if they do that ....
People are gonna start saying:
"Well, our transportation system is working fine, so why are we gonna spend money on a light-rail, besides, we already spent a bunch of money fixing our transportation system"
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lol... well if that's the case, what's the point for a light-rail?
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08-05-2009, 02:02 PM
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lol... well if that's the case, what's the point for a light-rail?
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We would have the luxury to say that statement this way:
"Well, our (lightrail system) is working fine, so why are we gonna spend money on a (old bus system), besides, we already spent a bunch of money (building our lightrail system)"
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08-05-2009, 02:24 PM
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We would have the luxury to say that statement this way:
"Well, our (lightrail system) is working fine, so why are we gonna spend money on a (old bus system), besides, we already spent a bunch of money (building our lightrail system)"
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That's fine, but again, there are numerous threads and posts on this forum that complain about the public transportation system that we have in place. The biggest being neighborhoods outside of 410 not having feasible access to buses.
I don't see how a light-rail is going to increase ridership if we aren't attempting to increase the base of those who could potentially use a public transit system.
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08-05-2009, 02:30 PM
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have you seen how it has worked in Dallas? They built it and the people and development followed. Put park in rides near the stations and you will likely have instant ridership - I know I would.
I agree that there are logistical concerns with regard to how you get to a final destination that isn't on the path or downtown - and this is where a good ancillary public transit system is required. I work on 410 and know that buses go by my office 1000 times a day. So long as I could get off a rail line at the major intersection of 410 and 281 (which seems likely) I could get to work given the current system. I am sure I am not alone.
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08-05-2009, 04:03 PM
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I can tell you if planned right it will work! I live in the suburbs (North Dallas). Been here about 12 years now.
I think many felt the same way in the beginning about having the DART Train here in our area. I can tell you that it flat out works and saves peoples a lot time driving in a infested area such as Dallas.
When it travels between stations, it does not have to stop for traffic lights, traffic congestion. Travels at a pretty good speed. Most folks drive to the parking area of the station and hop on.
I wish they would have added a Super Train between SA-Aus-Dallas back 20 years ago.
One should try riding the trains in Japan!  Now that's a good rail system! Be surprise traveling on their Bullet Train. Quiet and Fast! Wish we had that here in the states!
By the way, I was born and raised in SA. Plan to be back someday soon! Although I have lived in Dallas this long, I'm still a SPURS FAN! GO SPURS GO!
Dannyo
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