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04-01-2009, 04:41 PM
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Chris, look, you're dealing with a group of people who for the most part have lived their whole lives in San Antonio and south Texas. Therefore, forget about getting any kind of national/global perspective from these people; overwhelmingly, they're "born and bred" Texans, and proud of it.
This explains the defensiveness and incapacity to imagine the lifestyle and amenities of any city outside of San Antonio. It's frustrating, I know, but it's the price you pay when choose to live in a provincial place. I'd be happy to talk to you over PM.
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04-01-2009, 04:50 PM
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Chris, look, you're dealing with a group of people who for the most part have lived there whole lives in San Antonio and south Texas.
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I don't think that's true. There are plenty of transplants posting in this forum.
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04-01-2009, 05:48 PM
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I know Ocala well, I went to UF in Gainesville.
You should've done a little more research before moving here. San Antonio is well known for two things, being a tourist town and a family-oriented city. Sounds like you are looking for and expecting something else, more along the lines of Austin.
Cheers! M2
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04-01-2009, 07:28 PM
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Chris, look, you're dealing with a group of people who for the most part have lived their whole lives in San Antonio and south Texas. Therefore, forget about getting any kind of national/global perspective from these people; overwhelmingly, they're "born and bred" Texans, and proud of it.
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Wow, I really disagree with this. I've always felt that the board makeup tilts strongly to the transplant, especially the military or post-military transplant. There aren't that many posters who were born and raised in South Texas; there are several who have been here a long time (to me, a long time would be 15-20 years or more) but the majority are new to the area.
Not to mention that military families are some of the most well-travelled people you can come across; I doubt they are lacking in national or global perspective, having been PCS'd hither and yon before ending up in San Antonio.
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04-01-2009, 08:30 PM
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Chris, look, you're dealing with a group of people who for the most part have lived their whole lives in San Antonio and south Texas. Therefore, forget about getting any kind of national/global perspective from these people; overwhelmingly, they're "born and bred" Texans, and proud of it.
This explains the defensiveness and incapacity to imagine the lifestyle and amenities of any city outside of San Antonio. It's frustrating, I know, but it's the price you pay when choose to live in a provincial place. I'd be happy to talk to you over PM.
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Considering a lot of people who replied in this thread are transplants to SA, you're butt backwards wrong.
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04-02-2009, 08:51 AM
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Not to mention that military families are some of the most well-travelled people you can come across; I doubt they are lacking in national or global perspective, having been PCS'd hither and yon before ending up in San Antonio.
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well-travelled in the military is not the same as well-travelled. i highly doubt that many people stationed in okinawa ever explored the mountains of hokkaido and few in germany ever went backpacking across the continent by eurorail. the reason many military people congregate here is that the way of thinking in the military is very similar to that across texas: my way is the right way and if youre not like me, then i dont like you.
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04-02-2009, 10:20 AM
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well-travelled in the military is not the same as well-travelled. i highly doubt that many people stationed in okinawa ever explored the mountains of hokkaido and few in germany ever went backpacking across the continent by eurorail.
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Yes, you can only be considered "well-traveled" if you go visit other countries and then go do something obscure like explore the mountains of Hokkaido. I guess you have to live the life of a Travel Channel show host in order to be well-traveled.  I guess someone stationed in multiple countries for military purposes means little because they're automatically incapable of observing and absorbing the local scenery and culture. They're too busy being military GI Joes and doing military stuff like cleaning their rifles and doing jumping jacks.
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my way is the right way and if youre not like me, then i dont like you.
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Basically the same attitude you exhibit.
It's a Kettle pot thing going on here.
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04-02-2009, 11:04 AM
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Yes, you can only be considered "well-traveled" if you go visit other countries and then go do something obscure like explore the mountains of Hokkaido. I guess you have to live the life of a Travel Channel show host in order to be well-traveled.  I guess someone stationed in multiple countries for military purposes means little because they're automatically incapable of observing and absorbing the local scenery and culture. They're too busy being military GI Joes and doing military stuff like cleaning their rifles and doing jumping jacks.
Basically the same attitude you exhibit.
It's a Kettle pot thing going on here.
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the majority of servicemen i know spent their time abroad picking up women and drinking. none have ever mentioned exploring the region. i don't know anyone who was stationed in japan who speaks any japanese, ditto for german. thats a telltale sign they didnt explore. as for the pot and kettle, i dont care what people do and where they go, i live my life. i'm not telling anyone to do as i've done. but the notion that military folks are well travelled is absurd.
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04-02-2009, 11:06 AM
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well-travelled in the military is not the same as well-travelled. i highly doubt that many people stationed in okinawa ever explored the mountains of hokkaido and few in germany ever went backpacking across the continent by eurorail. the reason many military people congregate here is that the way of thinking in the military is very similar to that across texas: my way is the right way and if youre not like me, then i dont like you.
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Well, traveling someplace and actually living there for several years are completely different experiences as well!
If I may ask, were you ever in the military? I ask because those are some pretty ignorant comments you made. If you had been in and were stationed overseas, you would know that most military members and their families are very well traveled! And they also tend to visit those places off the beaten track, unlike tourists. I have encountered American military members in the oddest of places, but most times I run into American tourists it is where I would expect to see them.
I find your comments offensive and completely off mark. If anything, the most traveled Americans are the ones in the military. I don't think you will find a lot of civilians in some of the places I went to during my career, and if you did they were working for the DoD. Heck, many of the places I was sent to an American civilian would even be able to go to legally!
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04-02-2009, 11:15 AM
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the majority of servicemen i know spent their time abroad picking up women and drinking. none have ever mentioned exploring the region. i don't know anyone who was stationed in japan who speaks any japanese, ditto for german. thats a telltale sign they didnt explore. as for the pot and kettle, i dont care what people do and where they go, i live my life. i'm not telling anyone to do as i've done. but the notion that military folks are well travelled is absurd.
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Again, another ignorant comment! I spent half my career overseas and always traveled. Heck, my first assignment was overseas, as a 19-yr-old single airman, and even then I did a lot of traveling.
Yes, I was not always fluent in the language of every country where I was stationed, but I learned enough to converse politely with the locals as did most others. I speak conversational German and was stationed there for four years. I even went as far as to take lanuage courses when I lived in the Slovak Republic.
So now you know someone who was stationed overseas and spoke the local language!
It appears you have some "issue" with the military, and that's fine but you have no firsthand experience of what it is like to be stationed overseas so your "opinions" have no factual basis to them and anyone with half a brain would be hard-pressed to accept them as having any validity.
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