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Old 04-15-2009, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Alamo Colleges' four-year degree plan runs into flak (http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/education/Alamo_Colleges_four-year_degree_plan_runs_into_flak.html - broken link)

Should the local community colleges stray from their mission, primarily a two year program and/or institution to offer basics before a student transfers, to offer 4 year degree plans?
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX via San Antonio, TX
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I guess, if you can't get the degree anywhere else. If they add stuff like, Political Science, Psychology, Business, etc. like every other university in the world then it is straying from its purpose.

But, adding 4 year degrees that are relevant to continuing education in the community sounds like a good deal to me. The whole purpose of having a "community college" (whether you have the name or not) is to be able to readily transfer those credits to a university you can get to easily, and if you cannot get to that university easily, when why not add those classes to the school?

i don't have a very solid argument for this, and for me being one of the first people to respond we'll see where this goes.
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:57 AM
 
Location: NW San Antonio
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This happened at a community college near where we used to live. They JACKED UP the rates for everyone BIG TIME which left no nearby options for a community college with reasonable tuition I would say (based on what I've seen) that it's not a great idea.
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX via San Antonio, TX
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This happened at a community college near where we used to live. They JACKED UP the rates for everyone BIG TIME which left no nearby options for a community college with reasonable tuition I would say (based on what I've seen) that it's not a great idea.
Didn't they just raise next semester's rates some? It ended up being like $15 dollars (something really small) but still. If it starts with $15 then it can only go up from there.

They said it was to "improve the image" and to make all the colleges look the same. Whatevverrr.
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Texas
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This happened at a community college near where we used to live. They JACKED UP the rates for everyone BIG TIME which left no nearby options for a community college with reasonable tuition I would say (based on what I've seen) that it's not a great idea.

I would hope that the tuition increase would only affect those who are earning a 4 year degree and not the rest of the student body.

I do not think the article was clear on who would take on the expected tuition increase.
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:16 AM
 
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Let them offer 4-year degrees. Kids need a break from high tuition and a decade of being broke due to repaying loans. Sure tuition will go up, but I doubt it will cost as much as what a full-blown university costs now.
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Old 04-15-2009, 12:02 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX, USA
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I read about this in the Express News and the article mentioned fire science as a possible major. I don't mind the major of fire science, it just seems that would only prepare you for a very specific position within the public sector. In other words, how will the major translate into other fields? I worry about students graduating and not being able to find enough jobs in the community.
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Old 04-15-2009, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX via San Antonio, TX
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I read about this in the Express News and the article mentioned fire science as a possible major. I don't mind the major of fire science, it just seems that would only prepare you for a very specific position within the public sector. In other words, how will the major translate into other fields? I worry about students graduating and not being able to find enough jobs in the community.
If you are getting paid to go back to school or already know exactly what you want to do getting a few specific degree is helpful. sometimes, a 4 year degree is a 4 year degree. It all depends.

However, i see your point. What if an 18 year old gets a degree in fire science and at 30 he decides that it just isn't the right thing? There's really not a lot he can translate that to.
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Old 04-15-2009, 12:22 PM
 
Location: South Side
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However, i see your point. What if an 18 year old gets a degree in fire science and at 30 he decides that it just isn't the right thing? There's really not a lot he can translate that to.

But I think that happens already. I have several peers who got degrees based on what they were into at the moment. One of my friend's husband has an environmental science degree, is a certified genius ........and drives a delivery truck for Kraft..... and loves it. Go figure!


EDIT: Forgive me! I see what Ashbeeigh you were getting at....though I still think lots of people get degrees in things they cant really do much with if they decide they dont like something. then again they can always go back to school later. I changed my major err ahh ummm x3 *cough cough*

Last edited by perticusrex; 04-15-2009 at 12:25 PM.. Reason: Ooops! Spoke too soon!
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Old 04-15-2009, 12:42 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX, USA
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Since Alamo Colleges will be heading this pilot program in the city, there will be a lot of scrutiny on its success. S.A. is big on healthcare but maybe offering healthcare programs that UT Health Science Center doesn't have. I do like the idea of the green degree.
The article was on mysa.com a week or two back.
Whatever they decide to do, I hope they do a different tier of tuition rates for the junior and senior level classes so it doesn't leave out all those folks that are pursuing the 2 year degree because of the fear of the cost.
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