05-07-2009, 03:34 PM
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Okay well its a Hottest Latina contest in Conexion magazine which is a Spanish-English publication aimed at Latinos, I dont see what the problem is?
That is true but it's being highly publicized on MYSA.com, aka the San Antonio Express News site and the local news (KABB). It's one thing to conceal/restrict something like this on an all Spanish publication but to have it on the Express News site and on KABB is what doesn't make sense, espcially since there is no other "Hottest" compition other than this one put on by the Express (which owns Conexion). No Hottest Causcasions or Hottest African Americans, nothing. Just hottest latina. That's the segragationist pandering to a majority that eeks me to no end. Either have "hottest" comps for other ethnicities as well or stop pandering to the majority and just have a Hottest San Antonian comp.
The Express News, again who is behind this, panders to the Hispanic/Latin community like no bodies business. Just look at their main site, it has 3 or 4 sub sites dedicated just to that segment.
05-07-2009, 03:41 PM
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These women might not be gorgeous, but just because they are single moms doesn't make them "ghetto trash".
Pretty sure he was just calling his sister that.
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And just because San Antonio wants to host a latino event doesn't mean that anybody is excluding any other race from attending. In fact, when other races join in, there is more pride in our events.
How is any other race going to get in ona Hottest Latina competition?
05-07-2009, 03:49 PM
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That is true but it's being highly publicized on MYSA.com, aka the San Antonio Express News site and the local news (KABB). It's one thing to conceal/restrict something like this on an all Spanish publication but to have it on the Express News site and on KABB is what doesn't make sense, espcially since there is no other "Hottest" compition other than this one put on by the Express (which owns Conexion). No Hottest Causcasions or Hottest African Americans, nothing. Just hottest latina. That's the segragationist pandering to a majority that eeks me to no end. Either have "hottest" comps for other ethnicities as well or stop pandering to the majority and just have a Hottest San Antonian comp.
Maybe because Latinos make up the majority of the population? I don't understand what the problem is. If other ethnicities want to have "hottest" whatever contest, they should go ahead.
And, btw...Latinos are considered caucasian.
05-07-2009, 04:10 PM
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How is any other race going to get in ona Hottest Latina competition?
How is a woman going to get in on a "hottest man" competition?
How is a woman going to get into a "dog show"?
How is a white woman going to get into a "hottest black person" competition?
There is no way. Because the competition is for latinos here. Is that segregationist? No, its just an event like the ones I just mentioned. Do you feel bad when women can't join a dog show and win it? Why do you feel so bad about a latino competition.
And as an audience member you are more than welcome. latinos love it when other groups go to their shows. LOVE IT. And I'm sure that if those other groups want to host an event of their own, they are more that welcome to. And if they don't then they won't .
05-07-2009, 04:25 PM
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When push comes to shove (and it often does), people always want it both ways: We want to extreme soft-glove treatment within our self-created sub-group, but then will immediately talk about equal rights for everyone the second something outwardly discriminatory happens. It's that strange mix of wanting the best for yourself, but knowing that without some sense of PCisim you'll be looked at as a jackass. God forbid you're a social pariah.
The moment we stop ghettoizing and trying to 'be special' within the world by making everything about singularity, that's when things will change and people will just get along on a very base level. I'm not idealistic enough to think that's ever going to happen in my lifetime, but it's a nice thought.
I liken this whole discussion to what was said in one of my favorite movies, The Muppets Take Manhattan... 'People is People.'
Ain't that the truth
BN
05-07-2009, 04:29 PM
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When push comes to shove (and it often does), people always want it both ways: We want to extreme soft-glove treatment within our self-created sub-group, but then will immediately talk about equal rights for everyone the second something outwardly discriminatory happens. It's that strange mix of wanting the best for yourself, but knowing that without some sense of PCisim you'll be looked at as a jackass. God forbid you're a social pariah.
The moment we stop ghettoizing and trying to 'be special' within the world by making everything about singularity, that's when things will change and people will just get along on a very base level. I'm not idealistic enough to think that's ever going to happen in my lifetime, but it's a nice thought.
I liken this whole discussion to what was said in one of my favorite movies, The Muppets Take Manhattan... 'People is People.'
Ain't that the truth
BN
Everyone should have equal rights. Having a competition such as this is supposed to be fun, not discriminatory. Like having a wet t-shirt contest, you cant win unless you have a wet t-shirt. Its not meant to distance people, its supposed to just be fun. Why do you and others want to take this away from us?
05-07-2009, 04:34 PM
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Everyone should have equal rights. Having a competition such as this is supposed to be fun, not discriminatory. Like having a wet t-shirt contest, you cant win unless you have a wet t-shirt. Its not meant to distance people, its supposed to just be fun. Why do you and others want to take this away from us?
You're not getting 'our' point. I'm making a general statement on the psyche of people. You're taking this personally, which is exactly what you should not be doing... If you get angry, then the good part of the conversation ends.
I'm making statements about how people think: To compare something this complex to a wet t-shirt contest is missing the mark, IMO, by a mile. You say that everyone should have equal rights, but in this case, it's about not segregating TO BEGIN WITH. That's my issue. Stop it before it even becomes an issue.
It may not offend you, but that doesn't mean it won't offend others. What is fun to you might not be for someone else. Always keep that in mind.
BN
05-07-2009, 04:40 PM
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You're not getting 'our' point. I'm making a general statement on the psyche of people. You're taking this personally, which is exactly what you should not be doing... If you get angry, then the good part of the conversation ends.
I'm far from angry. I will ask you this: why do you feel offended?
05-07-2009, 04:51 PM
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How is any other race going to get in ona Hottest Latina competition?
I'll take care of this one,
It's impossible for anybody to know whether or not those girls are latinas.
A few latinas that don't look latina:
Cameron Diaz (http://www.californiarumor.com/files/images/import/cameron-diaz.jpg - broken link)
Tatyana Ali (from Fresh Prince)
Catherine Bach (original Daisy Dukes)
Lynda Carter (Wonder woman)
Nicole Richie
Fergie (Black Eyed Peas)
Even Charlie Sheen (Carlos Irwin Estevez) is hispanic
and here's my favorite one ... my aunt's classmate in Venezuela
Carl Herrera (ex-Spurs)
05-07-2009, 06:42 PM
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I'm far from angry. I will ask you this: why do you feel offended?
I don't. Frankly, I'm not one to easily get offended anyway
What I'm talking about is human nature in general: How ironic it is that the moment someone decides to hold a public 'Hottest White Guy' contest, there's some group who rants that it's wrong and prejudiced. We're a society that wants to have things both ways on a continual basis, which is impossible, but amusing if you're not easily angered. I often enjoy sitting back, watching people argue and find that in the heat of such an incident, people's true colors tend to bleed down quite a bit.
The solution? I think someone already said it on this thread: The Hottest Guy/Gal in SA contest. Why break it down into a specific heritage group? It does nothing but segregate the ideals of community as a whole.
We may agree to disagree on this one. I can only respond with the same ol' shtick so many times before I need a gin and tonic.
BN
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People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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