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Old 06-24-2009, 02:25 PM
 
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Do you need a permit to walk around and ask for donations? Out of all my fundraising ideas, this has what it has come down to, but I want to do this right and not cause any trouble. Anyone know?
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:17 PM
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It doesn't appear that you need a permit according to the San Antonio Municipal Code, you can't be aggressive in doing so, or solicit in certain areas...

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Sec. 21-29. Aggressive solicitation.
(a) In this section, the following definitions apply:
Aggressive manner means:
(1) Making any physical contact with or touching another person in the course of the solicitation without the person's consent;
(2) Following the person being solicited, if that conduct is:
a. Likely to cause a reasonable person to fear imminent bodily harm or the commission of a criminal act upon property in the person's possession; or
b. Reasonably likely to intimidate the person being solicited into responding affirmatively to the solicitation;
(3) Continuing to solicit a person after the person has made a negative response;
(4) Blocking the safe or free passage of the person being solicited or requiring the person, or the driver of a vehicle, to take evasive action to avoid physical contact with the person making the solicitation;
(5) Using obscene or abusive language or gestures toward the person being solicited;
(6) Approaching the person being solicited in a manner that:
a. Is likely to cause a reasonable person to fear imminent bodily harm or the commission of a criminal act upon property in the person's possession; or
b. Is reasonably likely to intimidate the person being solicited into responding affirmatively to the solicitation.
Automated teller machine means a device, linked to a bank's account records, which is able to carry out banking transactions.
Automated teller facility means the area comprised of one or more automatic teller machines, and any adjacent space that is made available to banking customers.
Bank includes a bank, savings bank, savings and loan association, credit union, trust company, or similar financial institution.
Check cashing business means a person in the business of cashing checks, drafts, or money orders for consideration.
Public area means an area to which the public has access and includes, but is not limited to, a sidewalk, street, highway, park, parking lot, alleyway, pedestrian way, or the common area of a school, hospital, apartment house, office building, transport facility, or shop.
Solicit means to request, by the spoken, written, or printed word, or by other means of communication an immediate donation or transfer of money or another thing of value from another person, regardless of the solicitor's purpose or intended use of the money or other thing of value, and regardless of whether consideration is offered.
(b) A person commits an offense if the person solicits:
(1) In an aggressive manner in a public area;
(2) In a bus, at a bus station or stoop, or at a facility operated by a transportation authority for passengers;
(3) Within twenty-five (25) feet of:
(a) An automated teller facility;
(b) The entrance or exit of a bank; or
(c) The entrance or exit of a check cashing business; or
(4) At a marked crosswalk.
(c) A culpable mental state is not required, and need not be proved, for an offense under subsections (b)(1), (2), (3), or (4).
Any person, who engages in any activity specified in subsection (b), may be subject to prosecution for a class C misdemeanor and a fine not to exceed five hundred dollars ($500.00).
(Ord. No. 100380, 1, 2, 2-3-05)
And soliciting from people in vehicles is illegal...

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Sec. 19-8. Soliciting from occupants of vehicles prohibited; causing a child to solicit from occupants of vehicles prohibited; penalty.
(a) It shall be unlawful for a person to stand on a traffic median, shoulder, improved shoulder or sidewalk and solicit, or attempt to solicit, employment, business or charitable contributions from the occupants of any vehicle on a roadway.
(b) It shall be unlawful for a person to knowingly cause a child ten (10) years of age or younger to stand on a traffic median, shoulder, improved shoulder or sidewalk and solicit, or attempt to solicit, employment, business or charitable contributions from the occupants of any vehicle on a roadway.
(c) For purposes of this section, the term "cause" shall mean aid, direct, hire, encourage, permit, or allow.
(d) Violation of any portion of this section constitutes a misdemeanor punishable by a fine not to exceed two hundred dollars ($200.00).
(e) Notwithstanding the other provisions of section 19-8 or any other provision in the City Code, a person seventeen (17) years of age or older may solicit employment, business or charitable contributions while standing on a traffic median, shoulder, improved shoulder, sidewalk, or the improved portion of the roadway from occupants of any vehicle on a roadway provided said person wears a florescent orange visibility vest, does not impede traffic, enters or remains in a roadway only while the controlling traffic signal prohibits vehicle movement, and has obtained a permit to do so, or who is a member of an organization which has obtained a permit to do so, from the chief of police.
(f) Permits may be issued to no person or organization more than once per calendar year for a period of no more than two (2) consecutive days, which days must fall within fifteen (15) days prior to a nationally-recognized holiday, and for no hours other than those between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and one (1) hour before sunset.
(g) The chief of police shall issue a solicitation permit upon application provided said application states the name and address of the person or organization for whom solicitations are made, the names and addresses of the persons soliciting, the locations at which soliciting will take place, and the times during which the soliciting will take place.
(h) Permit applications must be accompanied by a fee of two hundred dollars ($200.00) and a certificate of insurance signed by an agent authorized to bind coverage indicating that the applicant has obtained, at his sole expense, insurance coverage (1) that is written by an insurance company with an A- or better rating by AM Best and that is admitted and licensed to do business in the State of Texas; (2) that is in full force and effect for the duration of the permit period; (3) that provides one million dollars ($1,000,000.00) of liability coverage per occurrence with no deductible; (4) that insures the applicant and all persons who will be soliciting; (5) that names the City of San Antonio, its officers, employees, and elected representatives as an additional insureds; (6) that provides that any insurance or self-insurance maintained by the city shall apply in excess of and not contribute with it; (7) that is written on an occurrence basis; and (8) that is otherwise acceptable to, and approved by, the risk manager of the City of San Antonio.
(i) Notwithstanding the other provisions of 19-8, 16-227, 16-240 or any other provision of the City Code, a person sixteen (16) years of age or older may solicit the sale of newspapers to occupants of motor vehicles from sidewalks, walkways, raised medians, islands and other off-roadway surfaces and may deliver the newspaper to any such occupant who responds to the solicitation in order to complete the sales transaction so long as doing so does not impede traffic flow and provided that such person wears a fluorescent orange visibility vest. The owner and publisher of the newspaper will be responsible for periodically monitoring the activity of any such solicitor under the age of eighteen (18), such monitoring to be done by an agent or employee of the newspaper who is at least twenty-one (21) years of age. Any solicitor under the age of eighteen (18) must have the consent of a parent or adult having custody of the child.
(j) The owner and publisher of any newspaper distributed pursuant to subsection (i) shall maintain at its sole expense insurance coverage:
(1) That is written by an insurance company with an A- or better rating by AM Best and that is submitted and licensed to do business in the state;
(2) That is in full force and effect at any time sales and distribution are being conducted pursuant to subsection (i);
(3) That provides one million dollars ($1,000,000.00) of liability coverage per occurrence;
(4) That insures the newspaper and all persons who will be selling and distributing on its behalf;
(5) That names the city, its officers, employees and elected representatives as additional insures;
(6) That provides that any insurance or self-insurance maintained by the city shall apply in excess of and not contribute with it; and
(7) That is written on an occurrence basis.
The owner and publisher shall file and keep current a certificate of insurance signed by an agent authorized to bind coverage indicating that the owner and publisher has obtained the aforementioned insurance coverage, with the chief of police.
(Ord. No. 71696, 1--5, 6-7-90; Ord. No. 82745, 1, 8-31-95; Ord. No. 100823, 1, 5-5-05)
But I would advise calling the city to confirm that! And, there appears to be a lot more ordinances concerning soliciting (and not the streetwalking variety, although that is addressed but I am sure it does not apply!), do a search using the above link and the work 'solicit' to find them...

Cheers! M2
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:48 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Good question... is this for your church group or to pay your mortgage?

I called 311 and she wasn't sure. She told me to call the Development Services Department @ 207-1111 or if they're not sure then call the SAPD non-emergency # @ 207-7273.
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:47 PM
 
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Actually it's for a NPO created for the art community, but I havn't been able to get a job for 3 months either, so that's kinda tempting too... In all honesty I'm not gutsy enough to pocket money like that.

Thanks for the help guys!
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