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Old 06-30-2009, 07:02 PM
 
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We've owned five homes over the past 20 years, and the KB 3bd/2.5ba product in San Diego County was the worst built of all. Again, you get what you pay for, and while we paid a lot because that was where the market was in upper-middle areas at the time, we don't miss the starter-level construction and imprecision.
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:57 PM
 
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What's to debate? KB makes crappy homes. End of story.
This has been discussed in many other threads, by people who work in the homebuilding industry, so there's no need to rehash it here. It's not the end of story. The theory that "KB makes crappy homes" is simply not true, no matter how many people like you believe it.

Are you familiar with CoSA development standards? International Building Code? The homebuilding industry? State regulations? You see, these are important things to understand before saying things like "KB makes crappy homes".

Of course, rolling-eye emoticons are easier.
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:17 AM
 
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Are you familiar with CoSA development standards? International Building Code? The homebuilding industry? State regulations? You see, these are important things to understand before saying things like "KB makes crappy homes".
bla, bla, bla...many ppl on in this forum, including myself, have actually lived in a KB home and experienced KB's "standards" first-hand. Standards that more often then not include leaky roofs, crooked windows, shoddy foundations and poor materials. You see, these things are important to understand before attempting to argue KB's high standing in the homebuilding industry.

Now I'll double the eye roll and raise you a ...
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:00 AM
 
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This has been discussed in many other threads, by people who work in the homebuilding industry, so there's no need to rehash it here. It's not the end of story. The theory that "KB makes crappy homes" is simply not true, no matter how many people like you believe it.

Are you familiar with CoSA development standards? International Building Code? The homebuilding industry? State regulations? You see, these are important things to understand before saying things like "KB makes crappy homes".

Of course, rolling-eye emoticons are easier.
Oh, you mean the codes and regulations that KB has obviously violated on numerous occasion, hence why they are in hot water again, right? If they built their homes to these standards, why are they the builder that is always targeted for building garbage homes? You can keep on and on with your pro-KB rhetoric, but like the post above mine clarifies- KB DOES make garbage homes. A lot of us have lived in them.
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:13 AM
 
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I guess I'm a little confused and kind of coming in on the middle of this... why would anybody build a house without the vapor barrier? And who would buy off on this? That's just so basic and completely obvious even to the untrained eye.
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:18 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Oh, you mean the codes and regulations that KB has obviously violated on numerous occasion, hence why they are in hot water again, right? If they built their homes to these standards, why are they the builder that is always targeted for building garbage homes? You can keep on and on with your pro-KB rhetoric, but like the post above mine clarifies- KB DOES make garbage homes. A lot of us have lived in them.
I gotta agree, whereas I have never owned or lived in a KB-built house; I've been in many and knew a lot of people who have owned/lived in them. The vast majority were not impressed with the workmanship or materials used, and a good friend of mine who owned an "upper-end" KB home took me on a tour of his house and pointed out all the deficiencies. It was scary, and he has since moved out of it due to the poor quality.

I think the vast majority recognize KB for what it is, and unfortunately its reputation is not that of being a quality builder!
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:44 AM
 
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I gotta agree, whereas I have never owned or lived in a KB-built house; I've been in many and knew a lot of people who have owned/lived in them. The vast majority were not impressed with the workmanship or materials used, and a good friend of mine who owned an "upper-end" KB home took me on a tour of his house and pointed out all the deficiencies. It was scary, and he has since moved out of it due to the poor quality.

I think the vast majority recognize KB for what it is, and unfortunately its reputation is not that of being a quality builder!
Finally, another sensible user!
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Old 07-01-2009, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Earth
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We've owned five homes over the past 20 years, and the KB 3bd/2.5ba product in San Diego County was the worst built of all. Again, you get what you pay for, and while we paid a lot because that was where the market was in upper-middle areas at the time, we don't miss the starter-level construction and imprecision.
"You get what you paid for" addage doesn't necessarily always add up when you are purchasing homes. Lots of custom homes are built like crap and cost a ton of money. I would never recommend buying a new home from any builder. The only way I would purchase a new home is if I was watching it through out the build process. Not to mention bringing in the appropriate experts to do inspections prior to sheet rock, foundation pour etc. When your inspectors and yourself find shoddy work, make sure it gets fixed and verify it with your own eyes. Lots of times the builders will say they will fix and don't.
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:08 PM
 
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I am in the process of building a KB home in Schertz at Scenic Links. I plan to have my own inspector come do his/her thing at different parts of the process. And if for some reason I am not happy with the final product I am ok with losing 500 dollars earnest money. I have heard a lot of bad **** about KB at the time but with what I can afford I am willing to see how the turn out is. Most of the KB rep that I have been dealing with has been more that upfront with me on everything and that is something I respect her for at this point. I have not felt a but of shadyness yet. Lets see how the build process goes.
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Old 07-01-2009, 10:48 PM
 
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I am in the process of building a KB home in Schertz at Scenic Links. I plan to have my own inspector come do his/her thing at different parts of the process. And if for some reason I am not happy with the final product I am ok with losing 500 dollars earnest money. I have heard a lot of bad **** about KB at the time but with what I can afford I am willing to see how the turn out is. Most of the KB rep that I have been dealing with has been more that upfront with me on everything and that is something I respect her for at this point. I have not felt a but of shadyness yet. Lets see how the build process goes.
Keeping an eye on the building process is key - with any builder. Best of luck on your house. Make sure to have the slab, pre drywall and finished inspections done. Then use that year warranty to get any little thing taken care of. KB was great to me - it has now been a year and every issue I had was resolved. We love our house and couldn't be happier with the quality and the people have been great to work with.
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