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Old 07-13-2009, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Lakewood, CO
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I got caught in it also! Terrible planning by TXDOT, no warning at all!
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Old 07-13-2009, 10:54 AM
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Location: Ohio
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Yes - good point but NOT on the Transguide just before the Quarry -- I checked it on the way home. It was turned off - I kid you not! The first sign was posted just above Basse road - using one of those mobile signee thingamagigs - saying "US 281 Closed ahead" Well that was a teeny bit late... we were already in the Chaos.

It should have said... "US 281 Closed ahead.. Got You... Ha Ha Ha" in an Dr. Evil voice.
I am fairly sure that Transguide sign at The Quarry is brand new and hasn't been activated yet. Hildebrand used to be the northern limit of Transguide coverage on 281.
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Old 07-13-2009, 11:37 AM
 
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Is there a website or something online that also notifies of closures like this, you know, that you can check in advance of traveling?
The san antonio express news main web page usually has them posted.

If your really picky check before you leave each day, google maps with traffic reports is good also.
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Old 07-13-2009, 11:38 AM
 
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Having lived through the 410/Bandera upgrade, I feel your pain. Soooo many times either the Bandera exit was closed, or all of 410 was closed, and no notice is given until the last second. It's completely too late to do anything but curse by the time you've seen the sign. Even worse was when I was inching forward on the loop for 30 minutes, only to THEN see the sign that said that 410 would be closed... *sigh*. Seriously, how much do those blinky signs cost? Couldn't we have two or three put up when an ENTIRE HIGHWAY will be closed down?
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Old 07-13-2009, 12:48 PM
 
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I called TxDOT Area Engineer Mario G. Medina, P.E.,

9230 S.E. Loop 410
San Antonio, TX 78223
(210) 633-1401

to offer suggestions for improvements....

You may also want to share your opinion. Be NICE!

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Old 07-13-2009, 02:47 PM
 
Location: West Creek
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1. The work could have been done at night.

2. No warning of work. I purposely drove on 410 to see if there were warning signs of the 281 closure.-NONE

3. TXDOT may work for a local, a person passing through has no warning.

4. With the single lane forcedown cones starting after Jones Maltsberger there was no means of escape.

5. With all traffic being exited on Hildebrand, normal traffic light times continued. Why weren't SA's finest called upon to direct traffic and keep the exited cars moving?

6. Police cars were seen sitting on the closed portions with light flashing and window rolled up and, of course, air conditioners on.

All in all, a poorly though out and equally poorly executed operation. The removal of the primary north/south artery should have been coordinated between TXDOT and the city of San Antonio. It shows contempt on how the taxpayers are viewed and treated.

I would disagree, because "The drunks come out at night, The drunks come out at night, Drunks come out" LOL I wouldnt mind the street sweepers and the convoys working at night, but regular road maintenance would be more dangerous.
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Old 07-13-2009, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX via San Antonio, TX
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Seriously, how much do those blinky signs cost? Couldn't we have two or three put up when an ENTIRE HIGHWAY will be closed down?
I've seen them put up signs when the "entire" highway will be closed before. It's pick and choose though. During rush hour a few months ago (or weeks was it?) when there was a petroleum or gas spill or something on perrin beitel there were signs all the way from Vance Jackson on 10 saying that 410 was closed off that way. I was shocked to see the sign that far in the distance. That was plenty of time to find an alternate route (Thank God I didn't have to go that way!)
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Old 07-13-2009, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Austin
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I know the TV news stations did mention these closures the day before and day of. I went to the Farmers Market at the Pearl Brewery and I saw the closure signs on I-10/Hwy 90 area as well as I-35.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:16 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I would disagree, because "The drunks come out at night, The drunks come out at night, Drunks come out" LOL I wouldnt mind the street sweepers and the convoys working at night, but regular road maintenance would be more dangerous.
So.............We let the drunks inconvenience the rest of us?

I would think that with pylons set up for more than a mile funneling the traffic to an exit and barricades around the working area, the workers are protected.
Additionally, the cooler evening hours would be a safer working environment.

The whole situation was poorly run.
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:24 PM
 
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I called TxDOT Area Engineer Mario G. Medina, P.E.,

9230 S.E. Loop 410
San Antonio, TX 78223
(210) 633-1401

to offer suggestions for improvements....

You may also want to share your opinion. Be NICE!
Just to follow-up a lady from DOT engineer office called me and said that they did mess up and the problem was that their 'codes' required them to place the mobile signs a certain distance from the closure. She said that they will review these codes to fix this in the future.

Very polite and typically courteous Texan.
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