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Old 07-13-2009, 09:43 PM
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So.............We let the drunks inconvenience the rest of us?

I would think that with pylons set up for more than a mile funneling the traffic to an exit and barricades around the working area, the workers are protected.
Additionally, the cooler evening hours would be a safer working environment.

The whole situation was poorly run.
Unfortunately, in San Antonio, the drunks do inconvenience the rest of us. Either that, or they're out killin' the rest of us. Read the Sunday paper--not a weekend goes by without a serious drunken accident or most likely, a fatality caused by a drunk. The more pretty lights and barricades, the worse it is, I think. Ask the cops--they are scared when they are on the side of the road any time in the evening.

So, yeah, in a perfect world, the cooler evening hours would be safer. But not here.
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Old 07-13-2009, 10:11 PM
 
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I would disagree, because "The drunks come out at night, The drunks come out at night, Drunks come out" LOL I wouldnt mind the street sweepers and the convoys working at night, but regular road maintenance would be more dangerous.

Really? Crews worked on 75/Central in Dallas in the summer evenings often. They had huge spotlights. I dont recall hearing about any issues with drunk drivers.
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Old 07-14-2009, 06:33 AM
 
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Folks we're working on a major newsletter that will be mailed out to those that live near 281. Hopefully it will answer most of your questions. Until then, stay tuned
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Old 07-14-2009, 09:10 AM
 
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Drunk drivers are a problem in EVERY city... Not just San Antonio. That's no reason to shutter the idea of flood lights and evening roadwork. They do it in other cities without much issue. They can do it here too.

It's laziness, plain and simple, perhaps combined with a bit of greed: They have to pay a higher differential for overnight crews to work. Even if that was the case, it would more than pay for itself in safety with much LESS traffic on the road overnight and allowing the workers to work more efficiently not having to deal with the overbearing daytime heat.

Like I've always wondered aloud: Why can they build a $2.5 billion casino in Las Vegas in 9 mos, but the I-10/410 interchange took nearly 10 years? I'll never understand the amount of dawdling that goes on with the highway system and their construction teams. Unfortunately, mostly at the expense of drivers who are funding the project with their hard-earned tax dollars.




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Old 07-14-2009, 09:26 AM
 
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Like I've always wondered aloud: Why can they build a $2.5 billion casino in Las Vegas in 9 mos, but the I-10/410 interchange took nearly 10 years? I'll never understand the amount of dawdling that goes on with the highway system and their construction teams. Unfortunately, mostly at the expense of drivers who are funding the project with their hard-earned tax dollars.




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Mostly because of incremental funding by the state.... Look at the difference between the 10/410 and 281/410 interchanges. The biggest difference was that all the funds for 281/410 were available when the project started.

It is also not really fair to compare to a commercial venture like that, the investors in a Las Vegas casino are willing to pay the 30% extra to work at that kind of breakneck pace because they are loosing money as long as the casino is not open.

Some would call that outrageous and call for investigations if a government highway project costed 30% extra even if we did get it in half the time.
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Old 07-14-2009, 09:41 AM
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mySA Article discussing the traffic snarl and whether TXDOT paid for the painting.

UIW paid to paint bridge over U.S. 281 (http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/UIW_paid_to_paint_bridge_over_281.html - broken link)
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Old 09-28-2009, 02:26 PM
 
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Sorry to resurrect a dead thread, but I just came across it and had to respond to this:

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Drunk drivers are a problem in EVERY city... Not just San Antonio. That's no reason to shutter the idea of flood lights and evening roadwork. They do it in other cities without much issue. They can do it here too.
Um, they do in fact do lots of overnight road work here. Don't you ever listen to the local news reports announcing that some section of 410 will be closed from 10pm until 5am? Sometimes the overnight work even runs a little late in the mornings.

In any case, some work can't be done overnight for safety reasons, and some work requires a long continuous time span (like a weekend) to get done efficiently.

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It's laziness, plain and simple, perhaps combined with a bit of greed: They have to pay a higher differential for overnight crews to work.
How is it greed? Isn't saving the taxpayers some money a good thing?

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Like I've always wondered aloud: Why can they build a $2.5 billion casino in Las Vegas in 9 mos, but the I-10/410 interchange took nearly 10 years? I'll never understand the amount of dawdling that goes on with the highway system and their construction teams.
Two reasons-- (a) the folks building those casinos in Vegas have much deeper pockets than TxDOT does, and (b) it's much more difficult to do road construction while still allowing traffic through the area. The old saying is to imagine how much longer it would take to re-carpet a room while leaving the furniture in it.
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