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Old 09-14-2009, 08:39 AM
 
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First of all,
I'm not saying absolutely anything about the health care reform being good or bad.

I was just watching a show in Fox29 about the whole health care issue
They decide to show a country that has universal health care = Panama.

At one point they showed a guy and
he said in Spanish
"The doctors here don't give a ..... about people..."

Then the Fox29 translation started:
"They say that this type of health care is free, but is not"

Fox29 has no shame, the translation was nowhere close to what the guy said.
what does this have to do with Texas, shouldn't you put this on the political forum?

Nita
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:50 AM
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Location: Ohio
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what does this have to do with Texas, shouldn't you put this on the political forum?

Nita
The Fox 29 translation accuracy mentioned in the thread's title is on-topic here, since it discusses the journalistic integrity of a local news outlet. The health care debate is not. The posts above yours are on topic because they're focused on how the story was reported rather than the content of the story.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:21 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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I watched that special and remember that part, and now feel duped. I wonder how much more of that show was incorrect. That's infuriating. I am glad you posted this. Since I do not speak Spanish, I have to assume what the reporter/show translated was honestly what the man said. That's not even close.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:36 AM
 
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I watched that special and remember that part, and now feel duped. I wonder how much more of that show was incorrect. That's infuriating. I am glad you posted this. Since I do not speak Spanish, I have to assume what the reporter/show translated was honestly what the man said. That's not even close.
Again,
I apologize that I opened this without having a video to show it.
I was watching it on my TV without the DVR.

I can't say that they lied about anything else.
But I know for a fact that they lied in that translation because it wasn't even close to what the guy said.

Now, if I had seen this on the highway, I would have used my cellphone to record it (a little joke for "FirstClassFlyer")
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Old 09-14-2009, 12:13 PM
 
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Again,
I apologize that I opened this without having a video to show it.
I was watching it on my TV without the DVR.

I can't say that they lied about anything else.
But I know for a fact that they lied in that translation because it wasn't even close to what the guy said.

Now, if I had seen this on the highway, I would have used my cellphone to record it (a little joke for "FirstClassFlyer")
Dopo.....I think you need to call Fox and ask about it. You don't know for a fact that he "lied". The reporter may have had an interpreter standing by with cue cards or was getting info fed in his ear piece. We don't know the 'source' of the incorrect information. Was it the reporter translating? Was it another Fox associate? Was it a reporter/official/individual from Panama?

You would do this subject some justice by going to the source, reporting what you saw, write down what their response is and as for an explanation.
That is the responsible thing to do.

Personally, I don't put much credit in anything in the news these days because EVERYONE has their own spin on hot topics. Everyone is looking to nail the other guy. Unless you do something proactive about this complaint, you're not going to get better service from Fox. They should be put on alert that someone was paying attention.

If you were at a restaurant and you were served a burned steak, you'd send it back, right? Why not do the same to Fox 29?
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:09 PM
 
Location: South Side
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I dont know who the reporter was for this particular story but if you find out you can email him/her your concerns and they will respond to you. I had an experience where I reached out to Jessica Toumani about a story she did, and literally within 5 mins she responded.
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:25 PM
 
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You know, Dopo....they may have gotten lost in the translation, but were they really discrediting Panama? I mean...considering what the guy really supposedly said, they made Panama look good in comparison.
The fact that the translation given made Panama look good doesn't negate the fact that the translation was misleading. When someone translates, it should be exact, not used to mislead or misinform. I can see how you would think it should "slide" since the translation given painted a better picture, though. Maybe that's why no one complained.
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:26 PM
 
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I'm gonna give it a try when I get home and let you all know if they reply and what they say about it.

I was thinking today, that is likely they were using a video tape given to them by another channel/station. Because I doubt that the station from San Antonio actually flew to Panama just for that.

If that's the case, then I don't blame them for something that they didn't do.
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:36 PM
 
Location: West Creek
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i saw that too.
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:30 PM
 
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The fact that the translation given made Panama look good doesn't negate the fact that the translation was misleading. When someone translates, it should be exact, not used to mislead or misinform. I can see how you would think it should "slide" since the translation given painted a better picture, though. Maybe that's why no one complained.
I'm not saying it should "slide" at all. That's why I agreed that he should contact the station.

My point was the Dopo is saying that this reporter intentionally mislead the viewers and was putting a negative spin on the topic. We don't know that. I was pointing out to Dopo, that it seems unlikely since what the man actually said was much worse.

"The doctors here (in Panama) don't give a dot about the people."
vs
"They (the Panamanians) say the healthcare is free, but it's not."

Both are negative. My money is on being incompetent more than being unethical.
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