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11-22-2009, 12:12 PM
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Not what you'd call a collection, but I do have some interest in old milsurp rifles. I've only begun collecting and right now the only milsurp I have is a 1929 Izhevsk arsenal 91/30 ex-dragoon. (also means that my knowledge is rather limited) I've got it in my head that i want to start out by collecting long arms from the WWII era, then branch out from there.
11-22-2009, 12:40 PM
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Actually, my son does! He attended the same gun show you attended. I've been to many with him. (yes....believe it or not.
) Have you talked to any of the dealers at the shows that sell historical firearms if they know of any local groups?
My son has two WWII rifles that he has disassembled and completely restored. One is Russian and I believe he bought a Finnish rifle at the recent show (still working on that one.)
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11-22-2009, 12:41 PM
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That's a good start, I've got a couple of Mosin Nagants (to include a couple of carbines) and they are a lot of fun to shoot! One may have been used in the Spanish Civil War according to the experts, and I just envision Ernest Hemingway using it on the battlefield!
If you haven't found it yet,
7.62x54r.net is a great resource, especially the forums! You'll find a thread on my latest acquisition there...
Cat
Sounds like your son has Mosins as well, they are mostly Russian made but the Finns acquired some during their subsequent battles with the Russians and modified them making them very desirable amongst collectors.
Cheers! M2
11-22-2009, 12:56 PM
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You're correct...they both are Mosin Nagants. The Russian rifle is a M-91-30. The other one is however not the more desirable modified Russian/Finn rifle. It's a Finnish Mosin sako M-39. He would have preferred the modified Russian version but his budget said "no".
11-22-2009, 01:00 PM
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Yeah, I'm in search of a M44 as my next acquisition. Or perhaps another 91/30...or both.
As for 7.62x54r.net, I've been a lurker there for a while now. I saw your M44 search thread a while back, where'd you end up getting them?
11-22-2009, 04:34 PM
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My dad is a collector--a Mosin Nagant (not sure what year, but definitely WWII or earlier), an old Ak-47, an M1, and at least two others that I can't remember. He loves showing them to people and talking through the history--then again, he's a history buff so it all makes sense.
11-22-2009, 04:36 PM
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M2,
You might find some people with similar interests over at -
San Antonio - Texas Gun Talk (http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/san-antonio/ - broken link)
or in the Texas section over at arfcom
Texas - AR15.COM
I like older weapons but don't have any. I had been thinking about getting a C&R so I can buy a few directly. The oldest firearm I own is a S&W .357. I also have a Saiga AK47 that I converted. It was technically designed in 1947 but was built about a year ago. I always drool over the older firearms they have for sale at
Classic Arms Inc.
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11-22-2009, 05:38 PM
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Yeah, I'm in search of a M44 as my next acquisition. Or perhaps another 91/30...or both.
As for 7.62x54r.net, I've been a lurker there for a while now. I saw your M44 search thread a while back, where'd you end up getting them?
I overpaid for one from Texas Guns (but it was in really good shape), and then I got another via GunBroker.com. The prices at the shows have been too high and the quality too low (non-matching and stocks that look like my dogs have shewed on them for a while!), but online there are still deals to be had!
I've also applied for my 03 C&R license from the ATF and when it comes I will be able to have older collectible milsurp guns sent directly to my home instead of my favorite FFL which is way down north of Poteet. As a matter of fact, I can do transfers for others as long as it doesn't become a "business," so I will be able to help folks out.
wCat, I'd love to have a Finn
Suojeluskuntain Ase ja Konepaja Oy M39, they were well known for their accuracy and were produced for match shooting and training in the late '60s and early '70s. If he ever gets the urge to sell it for the Russian he wants, tell him to let me know!
Dim, I feel the same as your Dad toward them, it is more the history than anything else that appeals to me. Getting the opportunity to shoot a pistol or rifle from the First World War is quite exciting, especially since we were lucky enough to live close to many of the major battlefields of the "Great War" when we were stationed in Belgium. I have all the "modern" guns I need, now my focus are on firearms that have some history associated with them.
Lastly, thanks for the links, ChrisSA, I will have to check those out. Some of the other sites I have been to lately have gotten too political for my tastes (especially discussions concerning the tragic incident at Ft Hood), I prefer to simply discuss cool firearms!
Cheers! M2
11-22-2009, 06:09 PM
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I've got an old 1908 Colt hammerless .380 which was given to a lot of officers in WW II. Bradley, Marshall, Patton were all issued one. The one I've got is a variant one with a serial number of 2,000 and something. Somebody here probably knows more about this type of pistol than me. I thought the .45 was the most popular pistol in WW II, but I'm not sure..
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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