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Old 01-26-2010, 10:38 AM
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I doubt those homes cost more than 150k, but I could be wrong.
From the Centex website...those homes may not cost more than 150K to build but you'd need a minimum of just under 200K to get into this neighborhood...not to mention lot premiums for being on the hill!



Avalon (R55-1890)
3
2f
1890
Single Family
$196,900.00

Imperial (R55-2225)
3
2f
2225
Single Family
$209,500.00

Majestic (R55-2405)
4
2f
2405
Single Family
$219,250.00

Windsor (R55-2629)
4
3f
2629
Single Family
$225,700.00

Pinnacle (R55-2686)
4
2f,1h
2686
Single Family
$229,750.00
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Premiere (R55-2850)
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3f
2850
Single Family
$236,500.00

Regal (R55-3093)
4
2f,1h
3093
Single Family
$237,750.00

Royale (R55-3644)
5
3f,1h
3644
Single Family
$255,750.00
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Old 01-26-2010, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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I understand....I just know I personally wouldn't build with a massive production builder, KB, Centex, Horton....if I was spending that kind of $$$
Exactly, and I agree completely. But then again, I think it's like the big box stores... you can get a whole lot more for your money at specialty places (tile, cabinets, stone, ...) but it seems like a lot of people go to the big boxes because they're familiar or maybe simpler somehow since everything is under one roof. I'd imagine this is the same sort of thing. Maybe it takes the heavy thinking out of the decision, I don't know. I'm so glad the wife and I agree that's not the way we'll go.
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Old 01-26-2010, 11:49 AM
 
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and regarding foundations--you know these homes probably had a "floating" slab vs a piered-beam foundation...
Pier & beam foundations were pretty much phased out in new residential construction in San Antonio by the early 1950s.
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:06 PM
 
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It's going to be interesting to see how those "builder, arbitration mandated-no sue, contracts" apply in this case.
RGJ, you hit the hammer right on the nail about those builder contracts.
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Pier & beam foundations were pretty much phased out in new residential construction in San Antonio by the early 1950s.
Also, the historical pier/beam foundation in residential is different than say a foundation with piers that is often used in some commercial construction where the concrete piers are poured/connected to a slab foundation at the top (kinda like a floating slab with piers).

In residential, concrete piers were often connected to wood beams and there would be crawl space below the floor.

I'm no practicing engineer, but it seems driving concrete piles/walls in the backyard of the houses on the top of the hill might help protect them from further issues, if they can be saved at all. Then the retaining wall may be reconstructed or fixed to do its job and drain away water.
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:47 PM
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Even if some of the worst houses affected by this could be saved through PermaJack foundation repair, or similar methods, who would want them? Even with a lifetime warranty? I know I wouldn't. They are stigmatized.

And when you try to sell one of them and you have to fill out the Seller's disclosure?
"Oh and by the way, a couple of years ago the ground shifted, we had a 8' wide by 15' deep crevice across the backyard. The AC condensor/patio/fence fell in the hole, but everything's ok now because PermaJack fixed it!"
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:52 PM
 
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Even if some of the worst houses affected by this could be saved through PermaJack foundation repair, or similar methods, who would want them? Even with a lifetime warranty? I know I wouldn't. They are stigmatized.

And when you try to sell one of them and you have to fill out the Seller's disclosure?
"Oh and by the way, a couple of years ago the ground shifted, we had a 8' wide by 15' deep crevice across the backyard. The AC condensor/patio/fence fell in the hole, but everything's ok now because PermaJack fixed it!"
Completely agree! But then again in California, people continue to buy on the coast knowing full well that there is a strong possibility their home falling on the beach but they still buy.
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:55 PM
 
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Resident says Pulte Homes offers to repair slope-failure homes
(http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/Resident_says_Pulte_Homes_offers_to_repair_slope-failure_homes.html - broken link)

No. No. No.

These people need to retain the most hard-ass attorneys they can find and fight, fight, fight. Joe Jamail type attorneys. It's the only way they will ever recover their lost value, IMHO.
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Old 01-26-2010, 01:03 PM
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Resident says Pulte Homes offers to repair slope-failure homes
(http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/Resident_says_Pulte_Homes_offers_to_repair_slope-failure_homes.html - broken link)

No. No. No.

These people need to retain the most hard-ass attorneys they can find and fight, fight, fight. Joe Jamail type attorneys. It's the only way they will ever recover their lost value, IMHO.
You know, it's attitudes like Pulte's statment that keep the lawyers in business. Just own up to your mistake, bite the bullet and do the right thing! How many hundreds of thousands of dollars is Pultex going spend on lawyers over the next several years? Trying to fix the worst homes is beyond stupid
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Old 01-26-2010, 01:31 PM
 
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OMG! I pray these residents fight tooth and nail for buy outs! I wouldnt want to move back to a 'fixed' foundation! Its ludacrious!
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