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Old 02-04-2010, 07:43 PM
 
Location: San Antonio/Houston
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MMM that is so true. Why people cross water when they cannot determine how deep it is - puzzles me every time I read about another tragedy.
I could understand a poor judgment made by inexperienced teenager; but why grown up adults, who heard about the danger of crossing water after we had big rain and warnings issued by all media over and over, will still try to drive across water crossings?
We will never know what lead to that deadly mistake, but I hope we can learn from it.
Sincere condolences to his family.
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Old 02-04-2010, 07:44 PM
 
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I'm sorry if M2's post offended you, but he's right theres always a big yellow sign that says "Turn around Dont drown", and no way did he intent to cause disrespect on the deceased, or was being insensitive about the subject.
svg....it's really nice of you to apologize for m2, but that's really his job, not yours. He may not have meant to be insensitive (along with others) but he was...and has kept on along with the others. m2 is good at giving lessons in life here. This is just not the right time. And no, there are not ALWAYS big yellow signs that say "turn around don't drown"....this is a very rural area.

Anyone want to offer any lessons to the mother to be who flipped her car when she fishtailed in that water? Why do people have to point fingers and say it was human error when they weren't in the car riding with him?

Mom2feebs is right. We're not children here.

And thanks TexasNick....excellent example of how rising water can be deceiving.
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Old 02-04-2010, 07:47 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Sorry, we aren't talking about a flash flood here...it's been raining heavily for several days. And if he lived in this area, he should have been well aware of the low water crossing points there.

The bottom line is he made a bad decision and paid for it with his life. This doesn't mean he was a bad person or had any other derogatory aspects of his life; but the same would be said of anyone who made a similar mistake.

His family and friends have my condolences, but this clearly was an accident that could have been avoided...and acting otherwise does no one any good.
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Old 02-04-2010, 07:52 PM
 
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Sorry, we aren't talking about a flash flood here...it's been raining heavily for several days. And if he lived in this area, he should have been well aware of the low water crossing points there.

The bottom line is he made a bad decision and paid for it with his life. This doesn't mean he was a bad person or had any other derogatory aspects of his life; but the same would be said of anyone who made a similar mistake.

His family and friends have my condolences, but this clearly was an accident that could have been avoided...and acting otherwise does no one any good.
You cannot possibly KNOW what he went through or what he was aware of. Show some common sense. Accidents apparently don't happen in your world.
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Old 02-04-2010, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Funky Town
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His family and friends have my condolences
Thank you!
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Old 02-04-2010, 07:54 PM
 
Location: San Antonio/Houston
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Thank you svg210!!! And more likely than not the barricades were not up at the time.
Why are we always so fast to blame others? Barricades or not, we should not wait for others to prevent us from making bad decisions. Whatís happened to common sense??
We donít live in the Sahara. We experience heavy rain every year at least once. And every year we were told how to behave when approaching crossing water.
Is only up to us to listen and learn.
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Old 02-04-2010, 08:06 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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You cannot possibly KNOW what he went through or what he was aware of. Show some common sense. Accidents apparently don't happen in your world.
True, he may have had a heart attack while approaching the water crossing and inadvertently drove into it; but the most likely possibility is that he was attempting to cross over and misjudged the heavy flow and volume. As I said, it isn't the first time it's happened around here, and unfortunately it most likely won't be the last.

Either way, none of this speculation will bring Goss back. All some of us are trying to do is point out that this is most likely yet another case of someone not fully realizing the dangers of such situations. Yesterday I saw four cars that had slid off the road because of the heavy rain, it is obvious that people have forgotten that heavy rains make driving dangerous, especially in this part of Texas where water crossings are abundant and usually clearly marked by the depth marker shown in the photograph. The authorities do their best to close off these hazardous areas, but they cannot be expected to close them all off. It just isn't possible, and in the end people are responsible for their own safety.

There is nothing wrong with trying to help others avoid making similar errors in judgment...the only thing better than learning from one's own mistakes is learning from those of someone else!
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Old 02-04-2010, 08:13 PM
 
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This was the tragic result of a poor decision, not a difficult one. There are clearly warning signs, and people need to learn that they should not be ignored.
It would be nice if people would wait at least a few days to make comments like this.

I'll tell you exactly why I don't like this type of comments

You can say the exact same thing about anybody's death
- Heart attack: Shouldn't have eaten fast food
- Car wreck: Should have taken driver's ed
- Run over by a car: Shouldn't be walking on the street
- Suicide: Should have gone and talk to somebody
- Cancer: Should have used more sunscreen

We should have a little bit of respect, at least for their family and friends.
Because ... guess what...
Someday somebody close to us is going to die and while you feel as if 1/2 of you just died,
people are going to be making those type of comments implying that
"His/her stupid decisions got him/her what he/she deserved"
.


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Old 02-04-2010, 09:03 PM
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It's fine to use this thread to discuss the tragedy, but there is no further need to be lecturing each other in the thread.
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Old 02-04-2010, 09:09 PM
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Now it's being said he left work Wed night and never came home. So, it appears it happened in the dark with no barricades. Barricade were not put up until Thurs morning.
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