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Old 12-08-2011, 10:22 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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It feels like a culinary Renaissance in San Antonio!!!!
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:03 PM
 
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It feels like a culinary Renaissance in San Antonio!!!!
You're kidding, right? Most of what gets mentioned on this thread are just more mass-chains that line the streets and clog your arteries. If I'm going to die from eating too much, I'm going to make d@mned sure it's good food.

A culinary Renaissance would entail a city that could support French cuisine, both in fine and country form. Perhaps some variation on typical Mexican in the form of Cubano, Peruvian, Venezuelan or Colombian. A few more non-chain steakhouses would be nice, offering the kinds of steaks that someone like Mark Bohanan is cooking. A true dim sum house would also be nice, not having to cram myself into the always chaotic Golden Wok (who could also use a new, more powerful vent hood so I don't always leave there smelling like old grease). I can go on, but I think those of us who yearn for more understand completely.

I think it's just another instance of this city always wanting to move sideways, but never push forward. As I've said before, we'll have to wait and see what this kind of growth does to the city 10-15 years from now. I could be completely wrong.



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Old 12-08-2011, 11:05 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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food snob! lol

I CANT WAIT FOR IN-N-OUT to come! 2012 baby!
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Old 12-09-2011, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Texas
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You're kidding, right? Most of what gets mentioned on this thread are just more mass-chains that line the streets and clog your arteries. If I'm going to die from eating too much, I'm going to make d@mned sure it's good food.

A culinary Renaissance would entail a city that could support French cuisine, both in fine and country form. Perhaps some variation on typical Mexican in the form of Cubano, Peruvian, Venezuelan or Colombian. A few more non-chain steakhouses would be nice, offering the kinds of steaks that someone like Mark Bohanan is cooking. A true dim sum house would also be nice, not having to cram myself into the always chaotic Golden Wok (who could also use a new, more powerful vent hood so I don't always leave there smelling like old grease). I can go on, but I think those of us who yearn for more understand completely.

I think it's just another instance of this city always wanting to move sideways, but never push forward. As I've said before, we'll have to wait and see what this kind of growth does to the city 10-15 years from now. I could be completely wrong.



BN
same thought...any line that starts off "we're getting A/AN..." can't end well.
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Old 12-09-2011, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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A culinary Renaissance would entail a city that could support French cuisine, both in fine and country form. Perhaps some variation on typical Mexican in the form of Cubano, Peruvian, Venezuelan or Colombian. A few more non-chain steakhouses would be nice, offering the kinds of steaks that someone like Mark Bohanan is cooking. A true dim sum house would also be nice, not having to cram myself into the always chaotic Golden Wok (who could also use a new, more powerful vent hood so I don't always leave there smelling like old grease). I can go on, but I think those of us who yearn for more understand completely.

I think it's just another instance of this city always wanting to move sideways, but never push forward. As I've said before, we'll have to wait and see what this kind of growth does to the city 10-15 years from now. I could be completely wrong.
I would like to add a good Italian restaurant with nice atmosphere. I've been to the places people here have said are good and have found them mediocre. Maybe a place like that exists here, but if so I haven't found it.
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Old 12-09-2011, 05:19 PM
 
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I would like to add a good Italian restaurant with nice atmosphere. I've been to the places people here have said are good and have found them mediocre. Maybe a place like that exists here, but if so I haven't found it.
I would agree. The poor excuses for dining rooms at Italian eateries in this town are really to be talked about and laughed at.

It's why I won't go back to Paesanos in '09: The dining space is so loud. It sounds like a zoo in there, even during lunch.



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Old 12-09-2011, 11:29 PM
 
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food snob!
You betcha... And proud of it

If there are those of us in San Antonio who demand better dining and will pay for it, there will always be a Jason Dady or Andrew Weissman willing to open up something new and interesting. As more transplants move to the city, I think you'll see an expanded palette. At least, I hope so.



BN
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Old 12-10-2011, 10:26 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I think SA is getting better but sometimes people who move here like comfort food and when a place like 54th street comes here its kinda normal to get excited. If I moved to NY, I would probably miss Whataburger like crazy but Im sure I would find a substitute
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Old 12-10-2011, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Schertz
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I think SA is getting better but sometimes people who move here like comfort food and when a place like 54th street comes here its kinda normal to get excited. If I moved to NY, I would probably miss Whataburger like crazy but Im sure I would find a substitute
OMG! When I was stationed in Germany and we got to travel to France and Italy and someone knew a guide who worked for a food magazine, so we went to all these nice, 5 star restaurants and all I kept thinking to myself, "I'm eating some of the BEST food in Europe but I'd kill for a #7 Whataburger with cheese and a Dr. Pepper." LOL
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Old 12-11-2011, 02:01 PM
 
Location: United States
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You betcha... And proud of it

If there are those of us in San Antonio who demand better dining and will pay for it, there will always be a Jason Dady or Andrew Weissman willing to open up something new and interesting. As more transplants move to the city, I think you'll see an expanded palette. At least, I hope so.



BN
Agreed! There are those who would gladly pay for better dining. I'm one of them. From what I've observed the problem appears to be twofold: a lack of interest by many in cuisines other than those they're familiar with and the culture of cheapness that pervades the city.

The first problem could be overcome by expanding one's culinary horizons. Given that San Antonio love to eat, you'd think this would be a fairly easy task. There seems to be a lack of culinary diversity here in San Antonio among certain demographics. And for a certain age group, the ol' familiar dining trough seems to fit the bill. I tend to see more culinary diversity and interest among younger, more educated professionals who undoubtedly will be the core customers of future restaurants.

I think many won't try a new cuisine unless the place has such buzz as to be the place "to see and be seen at." To attend for those reasons alone is wrong, but many are oblivious to that. Many establishments whose image and reputation rests on the prestige of the name/location/celebrity patrons alone often have mediocre menus and service.

The second problem seems to be a matter of misplaced fiscal priorities. People seem to equate higher priced dining with greater portions of food instead of taste, creativity and presentation. They may also be intimidated or uncomfortable by the price tag or the ingredients.

I recently dined at a new high-end steakhouse and sat next to a patron who carped the entire time about the steep price of everything; what he felt were meagre proportions, etc. He wound up leaving at the same time we did only to see the discontented diner step into his new Hybrid Escalade and drive away.

We need more Dadys and Weissmans to imbue and enrich the culinary canvas of San Antonio with their artistry. But like any business, the demand will have to be there.
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