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Old 02-06-2011, 08:31 PM
 
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Yes, Dopo. But, Where is the Love?
You asked for it
(This is my answer everytime somebody ask me that)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJEbfeG2oAE
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Old 02-06-2011, 09:11 PM
 
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Okay Dopo for the old school Overweight Lover!
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Old 02-06-2011, 10:31 PM
 
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The Black Eyed Peas had a minor hit called "Joints and Jams" back in the 90s. That style was a lot better than most of the stuff they are putting out now.

I am trying my best to learn Spanish. I was even in pre-AP Spanish and made good grades; but I just can't speak it. I'm trying again because more and more jobs are requiring people to be bilingual in Spanish. I almost see taking German or French in high school as a waste. I know how difficult it is to learn a new language as an adult, but some people in this city aren't being realistic. At one of my former jobs, this one guy asked if anyone could translate for him because he needed to talk to the supervisor of this one department, but the supervisor didn't know English. This lady asked him, "You live in San Antonio and you don't know how to speak Spanish?" So is it stranger for a person to not know Spanish living in San Antonio than it is for a person to not know English living in the U.S.? If I had to take a guess, I would guess there are more people in this city who know English as a first or second language than there are people who know Spanish.
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Old 02-07-2011, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX via San Antonio, TX
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I work with a few coworkers in an office setting that speak spanish at times when discussing work issues. While I never say anything, I find this highly rude and annoying to do in a professional setting. I have even been copied on email traffic between them that is written in spanish.

Outside of work, I have no issue with it however because then I don't have to be around it.
I think I've said this before (maybe even in this thread...too lazy to look). I speak Spanish (and pretty well) but am 100% Anglo. I worked in an office where the majority of my co-workers spoke Spanish. They would speak in Spanish about work and nothing important, but it bothered me to no end that if I was around they would start speaking in Spanish. They knew I understood and could even be part of the conversation! What was the point?
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Old 02-07-2011, 09:54 AM
 
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What does that have to do with "American-born citizen".
It's no secret that the US lags far behind other countries in the education of our students from high-school on down. It's no secret that people in other countries can speak multiple languages moreso than our students in the US. That being said, we are having more people immigrating illegally and legally into our country who are taking American jobs as well (those only speak Spanish, and those educated with degrees who speak more than one language).

Those who speak Spanish only, are not assimilating and choosing to speak their language and INCREASING THE NEED for MORE BILINGUAL workers to ACCOMODATE the millions around our country who do not speak English by their own CHOOSING.

Those who are highly educated and speak more than one language who come to US legally are taking a job away from an American-born citizen in a tough recession.

In conclusion, many Americans (like myself) who grew up in this educational system (which is failing our students because of the prominence of standardized tests rather than TEACHING the students) are not as educated, cannot speak more than one language and then we have people coming into our country illegaly and then take our jobs and then MAKE us learn and know their predominant language from their country of origin since there are millions in our country who can't speak one coherent sentence of English.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:42 AM
 
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It's no secret that the US lags far behind other countries in the education of our students from high-school on down. It's no secret that people in other countries can speak multiple languages moreso than our students in the US. That being said, we are having more people immigrating illegally and legally into our country who are taking American jobs as well (those only speak Spanish, and those educated with degrees who speak more than one language).

Those who speak Spanish only, are not assimilating and choosing to speak their language and INCREASING THE NEED for MORE BILINGUAL workers to ACCOMODATE the millions around our country who do not speak English by their own CHOOSING.

Those who are highly educated and speak more than one language who come to US legally are taking a job away from an American-born citizen in a tough recession.

In conclusion, many Americans (like myself) who grew up in this educational system (which is failing our students because of the prominence of standardized tests rather than TEACHING the students) are not as educated, cannot speak more than one language and then we have people coming into our country illegaly and then take our jobs and then MAKE us learn and know their predominant language from their country of origin since there are millions in our country who can't speak one coherent sentence of English.
Seems to me like the source of all that problem is businesses that hire them.
I've never heard of anybody leaving their country to go to a place that they know they won't find a job.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:46 AM
 
Location: SA/Pipe Creek
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we have people coming into our country illegaly and then take our jobs and then MAKE us learn and know their predominant language from their country of origin
Nobody can make you. It's still a choice.

Oh, how I wish that they would try to force their language on me. I would love to light some asses up.
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Old 02-07-2011, 12:02 PM
 
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It's no secret that the US lags far behind other countries in the education of our students from high-school on down. It's no secret that people in other countries can speak multiple languages moreso than our students in the US. That being said, we are having more people immigrating illegally and legally into our country who are taking American jobs as well (those only speak Spanish, and those educated with degrees who speak more than one language).

Those who speak Spanish only, are not assimilating and choosing to speak their language and INCREASING THE NEED for MORE BILINGUAL workers to ACCOMODATE the millions around our country who do not speak English by their own CHOOSING.

Those who are highly educated and speak more than one language who come to US legally are taking a job away from an American-born citizen in a tough recession.

In conclusion, many Americans (like myself) who grew up in this educational system (which is failing our students because of the prominence of standardized tests rather than TEACHING the students) are not as educated, cannot speak more than one language and then we have people coming into our country illegaly and then take our jobs and then MAKE us learn and know their predominant language from their country of origin since there are millions in our country who can't speak one coherent sentence of English.
xsa - with all due respect I have first hand experience of the educational system in other conturies (in Europe and Asia) and they use FAR MORE STANDARDIZED testing than the US. They also spend far less money and use far bigger class sizes. Sad to say but the kids in these countries are far better educated.

Why? - parental involvement and lots of study! 3 hours homework per night was the norm.

If you did that in a school here there would be riots - led by the parents.
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Old 02-07-2011, 12:09 PM
 
Location: SA/Pipe Creek
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If you did that in a school here there would be riots - led by the parents.
Isn't that a sad statement about the U.S.? Oh my, children might actually have to study!
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Old 02-07-2011, 12:13 PM
 
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Why? - parental involvement and lots of study! 3 hours homework per night was the norm.

If you did that in a school here there would be riots - led by the parents.
School was tough in Venezuela when I was a kid, in the 90s there were only 11 grades,
in 9th grade (my last grade there) everybody was taking physics and chemistry, in 10th trigonometry, 11th Calculus. (9th-11th you choose emphasis in science or humanities)
When I came to the US, I went to school from 10th-12th grade and graduated with a 3.5GPA, and got a 28 in my ACT.
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