Haunted in San Antonio (Cibolo, West: real estate, movies, train)

[majormadmax]

Edge Falls is on private property and going there would mean trespassing. Sucks, but there it is.

And, it isn't haunted...

Cheers! M2

[mclor85]

Originally Posted by Deep Forest

To put it bluntly, the discussion about Edge Falls is off-topic for this thread and needs to go to another thread. Admin ???

Well I know it isn't exactly "on topic" but it's in here, and I didn't even know places like this existed in SA, sorry for being curious. I don't want to go there, I just wondered what part of the city its located in, like maybe what highway it's near.

[gy2020]

Deep Forest: I took your words to heart and created a new thread for Edge Falls. Hope this helps. gy2020

[Deep Forest]

Originally Posted by gy2020

Deep Forest: I took your words to heart and created a new thread for Edge Falls. Hope this helps. gy2020

Thanks gy2020. The thread was starting to seriously wander...and I do like a good ghost story every now and then....

[Deep Forest]

Originally Posted by mclor85

Well I know it isn't exactly "on topic" but it's in here, and I didn't even know places like this existed in SA, sorry for being curious. I don't want to go there, I just wondered what part of the city its located in, like maybe what highway it's near.

It's nothing to get upset over but the thread is for hauntings and other supernatural things...

[gy2020]

Tgannaway89, I thought I would bring your thread back since we are now talking about Miracle Mansion, Hot Wells Hotel, Insane Asylum, Donkey Lady. I thought I might add V. E. Red Barry's mansion, and let's not forget Fatal Corner (Jack Harris's Vaudeville Theatre) where at 7 people were killed over the years. There is also the Lady Hollering Creek on IH 10 near the Cibolo.

[gy2020]

There was a castle built near Von Ormy, TX back in the 1890's if my memory holds. It was built by an aristocrat, Count Von Ormay of Prusssia for his bride. She was also from Prussia. She took one look at the area and headed right back to Prussia. He was stuck with a mansion, servants, etc. The house or remnants might still be there. It seems that it was to the east of Von Ormy.

[gy2020]

The person I was trying to think of was Count Von Ormay of Prussia. Here is an article with a link:

Republic of Texas and statehood

Following the revolution, Texas pioneer Enoch Jones built a fortified ranchhouse, locally known as "the castle." Jones soon sold the property to famous Texian spy Deaf Smith, who lived in the house for several years. In the late 1800s, the "castle" was sold to Count Norbert Von Ormay, a Prussian count, for whom the city was named. Count Von Ormay arrived with his wife and servants from Prussia in the early 1880's. He registered a cattle brand at the Bexar County Courthouse, was often cited in the San Antonio Evening Light's gossip page, but little else is known about him and he disappeared soon afterwards. Many years later his son emerged in Brazil. The castle remained abandoned until the 1990s.
The first Catholic Church in Von Ormy had been established by Marianist missionaries[6] in 1836 on the Herrera Ranch. It soon became known as Santisima Trinidad Mission and was located at Garza's Crossing on the Medina River. Ruins of the church can be seen today and the historic cemetery is being eroded by the river. Santisima Trinidad burned in the late 1890s and a new church was built by [Franciscan] missionaries[7] in the 1910s about a mile upstream along the new Laredo Highway's crossing of the Medina River. Against much local protesting, this old stone church was destroyed when the Laredo Highway was widened to created Interstate 35 during the 1930s. The current church was built in the 1960s and renamed Sacred Heart of Jesus.[8]
During the 1920s, a tuberculosis sanitarium was built in the city. Subsequently 20 percent of the population died after being infected from working in the facility or being in contact with infected workers.
The Von Ormy school operated from the early 1900s until 1956 when it closed after the creation of the Southwest Independent School District.
The town's post office opened as "Garza's Crossing" on January 16, 1872, under postmaster William G. M. Samuel. It was closed May 7, 1874, but was reeastablished June 10, 1875, under new postmaster Robert J. Sibert. It was again discontinued August 16, 1875. On January 14, 1879, a new post office was reopened using the name "Mann's Crossing," with postmaster Anton F. Krause. This too was closed (November 9, 1880). It was again reestablished under postmaster Branson Bywater on September 13, 1886. On December 4, 1886, the post office changed its name to "Von Ormy," which has since remained the town's designation.[9]
In January 1906, the first bridge over the Medina River at Von Ormy was built by the International-Great Northern Railroad.


From the Wikipedia:
Von Ormy, Texas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[majormadmax]

More info on the Von Ormy and its castle here...

Cheers! M2

[gy2020]

I am going to pass on some famous people in San Antonio and tell you the cemetery they were buried in.
Jack Harris, owner of San Antonio, killed by Ben Thompson, July 11, 1882. Buried in City Cemetery #1 on Commerce St.

Joe Foster, worked for Jack Harris, died of gunshot wound to leg, Wound recieved March 11, 1884, died several weeks later. City Cemetery #1, in front of Jack Harris.

Some members of the Houston family, City Cemetery #1

Frank Beitel family, four Beitel brothers rode their horses into the original Buckhorn Saloon. And also built some of the houses of ill repute in the red light district.

Billy Simms, worked for Jack Harris and later was President of the Fair located in South San Antonio off S. Presa. Died in 1909, City Cemetery #2.

Sandra West, buried in her Ferrarri, in her negligie, with all her diamonds. Who said you couldn't take it with you. Masonic Cemetery, next to City Cemetery #1.

Claire Driskoll, savior of the Alamo, Daughters of the Republic of Texas, Masonic Cemetery, next to City Cemetery #1.

? Sinclair, the guy that wrote lyrics "The Eyes of Texas" for UT Austin, Masonic Cemetery, next to City Cemetery #1.

Note: There are historical markers for Claire Driskoll and Sinclair.

San Fernando Cemetery on the west side Judge Devine, who served as vice president for the Confederate States of America. he later served as a Judge and the town of Devine was named after him.

?, the first man electrocuted at Huntsville.

?, the last man hung in San Antonio. Both were around 1929.

There were a couple of more. i need to look them up.

Private cemetery near San Jose Cemetery:
Billy Keilman, gambler, police officer, author of Blue Book, 1911 (having a good time in Red Light district), owner of saloons and cribs for ladies.

Sunset Cemetery, off Austin Hwy.
V. E. Red Barry, cremated and his ashes are in an urn in the cemetery. Gambler, Representative, Texas Senator.

I'll find more for you and post them later.