Hesperia, Adelanto and Victorville, YOUR THOUGHTS?

[Pumpkinhead]

Originally Posted by booz30

YES YOU ARE RIGHT AND THAT 38 MINUTE DRIVE IS WORTH BUYING A HOUSE FOR 230K THAN DOWN THE HILL FOR 400K PLUS

230k...... REO homes are selling for 150k 4 bed, 2 bath, 2006 construction, 2000 sqft. This is a fact because I'm a realtor here in the high desert. 150k can get you FHA 30 year fix P.I.T.I. payment of $1150 a month. Thats better than renting+tax benefits at the end of the year. Now that is a deal.....Banks are practically giving them away. BTW thanks for agreeing with me on all the potential this town holds..........its the next economic engine I tell you.
"CONSTRUCTION IS BOOMING THAT TRANSLATES TO JOBS" we are getting so crowded that they just broke ground on a new high school "Oak Hills High" because our schools are full.....great indication of growth and prosperity!

[Pumpkinhead]

Originally Posted by jvazjr

'You do well investing in dumpy areas that are the next big growth areas on the upswing.'

You don't know what you are talking about. Next big growth? In terms of what jobs? Please. Over 50% of jobs in the IE are/were housing related. Now that housing is tanking who will buy all those crappy homes? And dont even mention an 'upswing'. We are not even close to a bottom. The ie will continue to decline for many years and remain flat for a long time.

You know this is exactly the attitude that I stay away from. You are not up to date with the high desert from what I can see....The IE is old news. Many companies dont even want to invest in the IE because Its already to crowded and to expensive. BNSF is coming up here to link up with our Southern California Logistics Airport for Intermodal Interchange translation "JOBS". Not to mention the vast amount of available land that is being observed by investers flying around in helicopters. Investers are all over the High Desert. Maybe you should come see for yourself. The IE is dangerous to your health "SMOG" and too "EXPENSIVE" to survive. FACT: Your right about the housing market...but the high desert has more homes sold than LA and the IE combined.....I wonder why, Hmmmmmmmmm.

[jvazjr]

'the high desert has more homes sold than LA and the IE combined.....I wonder why, Hmmmmmmmmm.'

Maybe it has something to do with affordability? It's not a secret the further out you go , the cheaper the homes and the less desirable the locations in terms of location. Gee what a concept?? HMMMM??? Mostly blue collar workers that really cant sustain current housing prices. 30k millionaires buying 300k homes. The high desert is going to suffer the most from this downturn. Its going to make the crash of MoVal in the 90s pale in comparison.

[HI2CA]

Originally Posted by jvazjr

'the high desert has more homes sold than LA and the IE combined.....I wonder why, Hmmmmmmmmm.'

Maybe it has something to do with affordability? It's not a secret the further out you go , the cheaper the homes and the less desirable the locations in terms of location. Gee what a concept?? HMMMM??? Mostly blue collar workers that really cant sustain current housing prices. 30k millionaires buying 300k homes. The high desert is going to suffer the most from this downturn. Its going to make the crash of MoVal in the 90s pale in comparison.

I couldn't agree with you more! It all goes back to "you get what you pay for"...in this case it's the location that brings in the pricing and riff raff that come right behind it.

[booz30]

Originally Posted by HI2CA

I couldn't agree with you more! It all goes back to "you get what you pay for"...in this case it's the location that brings in the pricing and riff raff that come right behind it.

riff raff is everywhere Orange County La San Diego Fort Worth you tell me where there is no crime

[sheri257]

Originally Posted by jvazjr

Maybe it has something to do with affordability? It's not a secret the further out you go , the cheaper the homes and the less desirable the locations in terms of location. Gee what a concept?? HMMMM??? Mostly blue collar workers that really cant sustain current housing prices. 30k millionaires buying 300k homes. The high desert is going to suffer the most from this downturn. Its going to make the crash of MoVal in the 90s pale in comparison.

Maybe but, I wouldn't knock those blue collar workers. There was a time when Orange County was considered the undesirable place to live because the homes were much cheaper there and the location was "less desirable." For a long time OC was a blue collar ghetto, so the speak. Go figure.

Eventually, that changes as more people and jobs follow. To me, the high desert housing crash has a big upside ... more people will move here for affordable housing and more jobs and growth will follow. Places like OC, LA and SD, by contrast, are losing population due to exorbitant housing prices.

Not that I'm predicting doom and gloom for LA, SD or OC but .... when you're losing population, that's not a good thing.

BTW ....I used to live in OC ... there was plenty of riff raff there ... even in the really nice areas. You could hear the police helicopters fly overhead every night. Not sure why you guys think riff raff is limited to the desert because, it's not.

[COUNTRYGIRL7]

Originally Posted by sheri257

Uh ... that's not what this FBI link says. It's actually more like 612 violent crimes per 100,000 people in 2006 (that same number, btw, has been posted in the Louisville forum on this board as well.)

Table 8 (Kentucky) - Crime in the United States 2006

That's nearly double the national average of about 350 crimes per 100,000.

According to this link, Adelanto is higher at 553 and Victorville comes in at 608.

But, Apple Valley and Hesperia are substantially lower at 306 and 375 respectively.

Nevertheless, if you want to combine all four cities (they all contract with the San Bernardino Sheriff's department but, at the same time, they also function as separate police departments) ....

Table 8 (California) - Crime in the United States 2006

Then the total violent crimes per 100,000 is 453 ... still substantially lower than Lousiville at 612.

Regardless ... if people are worried about high desert crime obviously Hesperia and Apple Valley are your best bets .... based on these stats.

Louisville is a WAY better place to live. The high desert sucks.

[booz30]

Originally Posted by COUNTRYGIRL7

Louisville is a WAY better place to live. The high desert sucks.

YA JUST WATCH OUT FOR THE TORNADOES HAIL AND SEVERE WEATHER AND LETS NOT TALK ABOUT THE CRIME THERE

[da jammer]

OK folks this thread has been beaten to death. If anyone would like to pull something worthwhile out of this thing and start a new topic then please, feel free. Thanks to all that have contributed and offered their thoughts and opinions.