I miss California (Anaheim, Riverside, Hesperia: for sale, real estate, to rent)

[curiousgeorge5]

Originally Posted by Alpha_Dog

Missouri is a real basket case when it comes to many things - it's still the Meth Capital of the United States,

Misery also ranks among the worst states in the nation for emotional health and overall well being.

Not good to have low emotional health and well being. Maybe that's why there's meth use. Do they manufacture the stuff there?

[curiousgeorge5]

Another thing for people to keep in mind is suburban living vs. city living vs. country living.

[curiousgeorge5]

Originally Posted by Blackhawk4440

Ghosted:
I live in the PNW now and moved here from Nevada; but am contemplating a move to California. I can empathize with what you're saying: the provincialism and stupidity you're seeing in Missouri (I know I grew up there) is nothing compared to the PNW. At least in Missouri you have 'Southern Hospitality' here in the PNW you've got the 'Seattle Freeze' and the 'Keep Portland Weird' vibe. I've never seen such a collection of fruitcakes and social retards anywhere in my life.

There is a lot to be said for making the best of a place; but it really boils down to the character of the people there. A person who has to live in a socially toxic environment is no better off than one who lives in a physically toxic environment. Both will rot you from the inside out.

People in Seattle are cold?

Socially toxic environments are bad for you. I know this from experience.

[JoninATX]

There's nothing wrong with living where you want to live. Some people like me chase that golden dream in the beautiful golden state, but of course with life there are obstacles we all have to go through which for me makes it even more exciting. Someday I plan on living out there but for the time being I make the best out here in Austin, TX.

[shannonM]

I feel your pain....we moved to WI a year ago and this has been the worst mistake of our lives. I am miserable here! the weather the people and all their mental issues maybe due to lack of sun?? Idk the backwards way of life. these people go to college at a high rate and yet they have no common sense. I work in the public service field and find myself explaining simple instructions 3-4 times before they get what i'm saying. I told a guy the other day that if he wanted his payment to post to his account immediately he had to pay with cash and since he was paying with check it would take 2 days to post.....and he said to me "cash...meaning???" smh well sir, cash meaning 50s 20s 10s 5s or ones. this here (holding up check) is called a check! and angry just angry people

[retiredtxn]

When my husband retired in 2001 and we left CA to travel around in our fifth-wheel, and one of the places we spent winters was in Brownsville, TX. We had heard that a lot of "winter Texans" migrated down there from MN, MO, IL, etc. so we parked our trailer in a retirement park for several winters.

There were a few couples that we made friends with from those states, but most every one else was stand-offish and they never really had much to do with us because (I think) we were from CA. We had a different mindset and outlook then they did and they never fully accepted us.

The same kind of attitude was in the people we met when we bought a house in Victoria, TX. My husband is a trap-shooter (and a good one!!) and Victoria has a big shooting club there. There were only a handful of guys that made him feel welcome....no matter how well he shot in their tournaments.

I worked at that time in Victoria and I was definitely an outsider. First of all, I was the oldest in a company of 60 girls so I didn't fit in that way. Second of all, I had a different work ethic than they did. Third, I wasn't hispanic. There were only 2 other women that worked there that were white and the hispanic girls didn't want anything to do with me. When I gave my notice (after 3 miserable years!!) that we were moving to PA, one of the very unfriendly hispanic girls came up to me and said, and I quote, "That's good you're going back where you belong." I couldn't wait to get out of TX and if I have any say, I'll never go back.

[Ghosted]

Originally Posted by retiredtxn

When my husband retired in 2001 and we left CA to travel around in our fifth-wheel, and one of the places we spent winters was in Brownsville, TX. We had heard that a lot of "winter Texans" migrated down there from MN, MO, IL, etc. so we parked our trailer in a retirement park for several winters.

There were a few couples that we made friends with from those states, but most every one else was stand-offish and they never really had much to do with us because (I think) we were from CA. We had a different mindset and outlook then they did and they never fully accepted us.

The same kind of attitude was in the people we met when we bought a house in Victoria, TX. My husband is a trap-shooter (and a good one!!) and Victoria has a big shooting club there. There were only a handful of guys that made him feel welcome....no matter how well he shot in their tournaments.

I worked at that time in Victoria and I was definitely an outsider. First of all, I was the oldest in a company of 60 girls so I didn't fit in that way. Second of all, I had a different work ethic than they did. Third, I wasn't hispanic. There were only 2 other women that worked there that were white and the hispanic girls didn't want anything to do with me. When I gave my notice (after 3 miserable years!!) that we were moving to PA, one of the very unfriendly hispanic girls came up to me and said, and I quote, "That's good you're going back where you belong." I couldn't wait to get out of TX and if I have any say, I'll never go back.

That is exactly how myself and family feel here is an "outsider." I can't relate to anyone at all here because I just don't have any of the same interests. Mostly here it's turkey hunting, deer hunting, rodeos and gun shows which I don't have any interest in. People here are definitely different and not the sort of company that I want or need. I felt so at home in California and the people I met and worked with were very laid back and easy to talk to and I could relate to them. I don't know maybe it's just me haha.

[retiredtxn]

Originally Posted by Ghosted

That is exactly how myself and family feel here is an "outsider." I can't relate to anyone at all here because I just don't have any of the same interests. Mostly here it's turkey hunting, deer hunting, rodeos and gun shows which I don't have any interest in. People here are definitely different and not the sort of company that I want or need. I felt so at home in California and the people I met and worked with were very laid back and easy to talk to and I could relate to them. I don't know maybe it's just me haha.

It's not just you. Here in PA we don't really have much of a problem with getting along with neighbors or just people in general. They are more friendly and they're interested in our "former" lives. As a matter of fact, a lot of our friends have grown children and their families in CA and they've been there to visit or they were stationed in San Diego or some place else in CA during their military lives.

But, like I said, it was a definite unfriendly attitude from most winter Texans from MN and MO in particular. And let me tell you....that little snip of a mexican girl wasn't the only rude hispanic person we encountered while in TX. I went to Home Depot one day to get David some paint and the hispanic guy behind the counter wouldn't wait on me. He took all the other hispanic guys waiting and ignored me. I went home without the paint and told David he'd have to go.

If you don't have anything in common with people that you work with or even acquaintances, it's hard to be happy. It's absolutely a cultural difference. I don't know if they feel like you think you're better than them (because you're from CA???) but it's uncomfortable, I know.

Hopefully you can get back soon to where you want to be. In the meantime, just do the best you can with it.

[Ghosted]

I agree with you. I never think I am better than them or act that way it's just a difference in lifestyles and cultures.

[Gurbie]

Originally Posted by curiousgeorge5

People in Seattle are cold?

Socially toxic environments are bad for you. I know this from experience.

There is such a thing as "SAD"- Seasonal Affective Disorder. People don't realize they're susceptible, till they move to a place with a climate that doesn't suit them.