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Old 07-31-2017, 07:59 PM
 
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Yes, there's the communities of North Shore, Mecca, Oasis, Desert Shores, Salton City, Salton Sea Beach, Bombay Beach, and Niland. The first three of which are in the Coachella Valley. Oh, and let's not forget Slab City!

BTW, let's just hope that the Salton Sea will not disappear.
The only way the Salton Sea is NOT going to be an ecological disaster for the entire region is if they build a pipeline from the Gulf of California along with a DeSal plant on the southern shore. Unfortunately, the Imperial Irrigation District owns the land currently under the sea and wants it to dry up so it can build more Geothermal plants and also for mineral extraction. And the IID is in bed with the state government. The "10 year plans" they keep floating are complete BS.

Let's hope they delay the water transfer to SD so it stars later than the end of this year. Any kind of significant loss of Sea area will be a health and economic disaster for everyone from Cabazon to Mexicali. No more tourism, damaged crops, and slashed property values will be the result, along with everyone having asthma.

So I can see why you're looking at SB county lol.
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Old 07-31-2017, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Jurupa Valley, CA, USA 92509
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For those who didn't understand the above question:

Is it EVER possible for someone to live in an abandoned ghost town out in the desert of San Bernardino County? (Examples: Ludlow, Amboy, Cima, Vidal, Nipton, Halloran Springs, etc.)

(NOTE: The rest of my above questions can be found on my first post on the first page of this thread. You're welcome. )
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Old 07-31-2017, 08:07 PM
 
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The only way the Salton Sea is NOT going to be an ecological disaster for the entire region is if they build a pipeline from the Gulf of California along with a DeSal plant on the southern shore. Unfortunately, the Imperial Irrigation District owns the land currently under the sea and wants it to dry up so it can build more Geothermal plants and also for mineral extraction. And the IID is in bed with the state government. The "10 year plans" they keep floating are complete BS.

Let's hope they delay the water transfer to SD so it stars later than the end of this year. Any kind of significant loss of Sea area will be a health and economic disaster for everyone from Cabazon to Mexicali. No more tourism, damaged crops, and slashed property values will be the result, along with everyone having asthma.

So I can see why you're looking at SB county lol.
So, basically the entire desert portion of Riverside County and the entirity of Imperial County? But, wouldn't the rest of the SoCal region become affected, as well? Would it not make the air pollution in the LA Area and the IE much worse?
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Old 07-31-2017, 08:14 PM
 
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So, basically the entire desert portion of Riverside County and the entirity of Imperial County? But, wouldn't the rest of the SoCal region become affected, as well?
Yes, but basically only when the Santa Anas blow.
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Old 07-31-2017, 08:26 PM
 
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It doesn't make sense for the pollution from the Salton Sea (when it happens, anyway) to stop at Cabazon, though.
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Old 07-31-2017, 08:38 PM
 
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It wouldn't stop it'd just be contained by the pass. Cabazon, North Palm Springs, DHS wouldn't be as affected as they're in direct path of the westerly wind. My impression, and you would know better than me, is that the winds in the lower parts of the CV tend to be more of a "swirling" variety than in the western parts of the valley. But I would think the areas south of the sea would get the toxic dust issues more so than the areas to the west/north.
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Old 07-31-2017, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Jurupa Valley, CA, USA 92509
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It wouldn't stop it'd just be contained by the pass. Cabazon, North Palm Springs, DHS wouldn't be as affected as they're in direct path of the westerly wind. My impression, and you would know better than me, is that the winds in the lower parts of the CV tend to be more of a "swirling" variety than in the western parts of the valley. But I would think the areas south of the sea would get the toxic dust issues more so than the areas to the west/north.
Which is why I may or may not plan to live somewhere that's more rural, cheaper, "off the grid," or just a combination of two or possibly three, up in San Bernardino County (preferably desert), or some other lower-cost county in California sometime in the future. Or, perhaps just move out of the State altogether.

BTW, how did this thread go from my topic of focus to the disastrous future of the Salton Sea?
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Old 07-31-2017, 09:16 PM
 
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There's always Wonder Valley.

Wonder Valley Grows in Size, Appeal

But, I'd probably head somewhere south of Octotillo in Imperial County, myself. Lots of people living in that area in little trailers and shanties, although they do tend to notice strangers traipsing around. Or maybe I'd boondock in Anza Borrego.

Key considerations for me would be:

Having a working toilet or outhouse or an RV you can pump out once in a while; hauling poop in plastic bags would get old quick. You'd also need some way of disposing of trash on a regular basis.

A pick up truck in working order, preferrably with four wheel drive, to haul equipment, tools, trash. The four wheel drive would allow you to get off main thoroughfares and be less obvious.

Cooling for the summer months. I personally would need at least a swamp cooler, and that means either electricity, a generator, or some sort of solar power. Trouble is that starts calling attention to yourself. I've seen people living out in the desert without this -- they often do build shade structures over their houses though.

A fireplace and source of wood for colder nights in the winter (although if your structure or RV was well insulated you could probably get away without this.

A good camp stove and propane for cooking.

A good medical kit and some basic first aid skills, plus insurance that would cover an ambulance/air lift in case of an emergency.

I'd also want to check the zoning laws for the lot I plan to set up shop on. That's easy enough to do on the County planning sites. Would be a shame to invest time and money into setting up a place, only to be evicted for trespassing.

But there are plenty of places out in the desert where it would take a long time before anyone bothered you.

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Old 07-31-2017, 11:38 PM
 
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There's always Wonder Valley.

Wonder Valley Grows in Size, Appeal

But, I'd probably head somewhere south of Octotillo in Imperial County, myself. Lots of people living in that area in little trailers and shanties, although they do tend to notice strangers traipsing around. Or maybe I'd boondock in Anza Borrego.

Key considerations for me would be:

Having a working toilet or outhouse or an RV you can pump out once in a while; hauling poop in plastic bags would get old quick. You'd also need some way of disposing of trash on a regular basis.

A pick up truck in working order, preferrably with four wheel drive, to haul equipment, tools, trash. The four wheel drive would allow you to get off main thoroughfares and be less obvious.

Cooling for the summer months. I personally would need at least a swamp cooler, and that means either electricity, a generator, or some sort of solar power. Trouble is that starts calling attention to yourself. I've seen people living out in the desert without this -- they often do build shade structures over their houses though.

A fireplace and source of wood for colder nights in the winter (although if your structure or RV was well insulated you could probably get away without this.

A good camp stove and propane for cooking.

A good medical kit and some basic first aid skills, plus insurance that would cover an ambulance/air lift in case of an emergency.

I'd also want to check the zoning laws for the lot I plan to set up shop on. That's easy enough to do on the County planning sites. Would be a shame to invest time and money into setting up a place, only to be evicted for trespassing.

But there are plenty of places out in the desert where it would take a long time before anyone bothered you.
You can always shack up at Miller's Garage
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:48 PM
 
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You can always shack up at Miller's Garage
Oh, yes! I think that's in Whitewater or something!
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