08-21-2017, 12:40 PM
Location: Jurupa Valley, CA, USA 92509
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Okay, I'm not sure if it was just me or not, but I'm pretty sure that the rotten-egg stench that I so happened to come across yesterday here in Indio was coming from the Salton Sea! Gee-whiz, it was awful!
I don't know about you guys, but I have a feeling that this might be a sign that the Salton Sea is getting closer to its demise. Or, perhaps it was just the wind?...
So, did anyone of you who reside in the CV smell the Salton Sea yesterday? How close were you to it? Let me know!
08-21-2017, 12:44 PM
Location: State of Transition
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The greatest source of particulates in the air in the US is from the lake bed of the former Owens Lake. It looks like the Salton Sea is headed in the same direction. The City of Los Angeles is now required to run a sprinkler system to keep the Owens lake bed moist, to control the particulates, which are a health hazard. Not sure what would happen if the Salton Sea dried up.
08-21-2017, 01:01 PM
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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When it dries up, the Salton Sea will be a disaster for the CV. It will create toxic dust.
08-21-2017, 01:13 PM
Location: Jurupa Valley, CA, USA 92509
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Ruth4Truth
The greatest source of particulates in the air in the US is from the lake bed of the former Owens Lake. It looks like the Salton Sea is headed in the same direction. The City of Los Angeles is now required to run a sprinkler system to keep the Owens lake bed moist, to control the particulates, which are a health hazard. Not sure what would happen if the Salton Sea dried up.
Allow me to tell you what WILL happen if it dries up. Toxic dust from the Salton Sea will rise up and then spread to the Coachella Valley (where I reside) and the neighboring Imperial Valley down south. This will cause the air quality in both valleys to become much worse, and increase the risk of developing asthma or other respiratory-related health issues. Basically, anywhere from Cabazon all the way down to Mexicali would likely suffer from this. Areas far northwest of the Salton Sea (DHS, NPS, Whitewater, Bonnie Bell) would probably not be as affected due to their location near/in the San Gorgonio Pass (aka, Banning, or Cabazon Pass). I feel that the area(s) south of the Salton Sea would likely be more affected now that Imperial County has some of the highest, if not the highest, rate of individuals affected with respiratory issues. Pretty scary, really.
08-21-2017, 03:37 PM
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No I didn't, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
08-21-2017, 03:39 PM
Location: Jurupa Valley, CA, USA 92509
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No I didn't, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
The one off of Indio Springs Drive?
08-21-2017, 03:43 PM
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Allow me to tell you what WILL happen if it dries up. Toxic dust from the Salton Sea will rise up and then spread to the Coachella Valley (where I reside) and the neighboring Imperial Valley down south. This will cause the air quality in both valleys to become much worse, and increase the risk of developing asthma or other respiratory-related health issues. Basically, anywhere from Cabazon all the way down to Mexicali would likely suffer from this. Areas far northwest of the Salton Sea (DHS, NPS, Whitewater, Bonnie Bell) would probably not be as affected due to their location near/in the San Gorgonio Pass (aka, Banning, or Cabazon Pass). I feel that the area(s) south of the Salton Sea would likely be more affected now that Imperial County has some of the highest, if not the highest, rate of individuals affected with respiratory issues. Pretty scary, really.
Not just lung issues, but you can say goodbye to the Pacific Flyway birds stopping over at the Sea, and a depressed economy in the CV and Imperial valleys due to compromised farmlands, decreased tourism, and lower property values causing people to closely guard their pocketbooks.
But on the other side, the IID can develop the land they own under the sea and trigger the San Andreas fault with increased geothermal plant activity and by removing the stabilizing weight of the Sea. Such swell guys they are.
08-21-2017, 03:44 PM
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When it dries up, the Salton Sea will be a disaster for the CV. It will create toxic dust.
Even if it dries up say 30% it will be a disaster for the CV.
08-21-2017, 03:45 PM
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Thanks for your posts about the future dust from the Salton Sea, Graves and SouthOC. When I said I didn't know what would happen when it dries up, that's not what I meant. We KNOW that will happen, because of the experience with the Owens Lake bed.
What I meant was, I don't know who would take the responsibility for mitigating the problem. The State was able to stick LA with the responsibility for "watering" the Owens Lake bed, because it was LA's demand for water that created and perpetuates the problem. No one is at fault for the Salton Sea drying up, so something might have to be worked out from state funding, or something.
And make no mistake; the dust from those dry lake beds spreads all over the US; it doesn't stay contained in CA or the West. Obviously, the closest towns and cities would be affected more severely. The State will have to come up with a plan.
Here's a photo of the Owens Lake bed, today:
http://blog.fabric.ch/fabric/images/...32488805_2.jpg
08-21-2017, 03:56 PM
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Thanks for your posts about the future dust from the Salton Sea, Graves and SouthOC. When I said I didn't know what would happen when it dries up, that's not what I meant. We KNOW that will happen, because of the experience with the Owens Lake bed.
What I meant was, I don't know who would take the responsibility for mitigating the problem. The State was able to stick LA with the responsibility for "watering" the Owens Lake bed, because it was LA's demand for water that created and perpetuates the problem. No one is at fault for the Salton Sea drying up, so something might have to be worked out from state funding, or something.
And make no mistake; the dust from those dry lake beds spreads all over the US; it doesn't stay contained in CA or the West. Obviously, the closest towns and cities would be affected more severely. The State will have to come up with a plan.
Here's a photo of the Owens Lake bed, today:
http://blog.fabric.ch/fabric/images/...32488805_2.jpg
I think you can reasonably point the finger at the Imperial Irrigation District. They control the water coming from the Colorado river and sold much of the rights to SD knowing what would happen to the sea. They also keep shunning the idea of importing ocean water from the Gulf of California to keep the Sea level. They're in bed with the state and have the ear of Moonshine. They also own the land under the sea and want to develop it for mineral extraction and building geothermal plants, despite having a very good idea of what would happen to the region should they end up getting their way. Any "mitigation plan" is just an attempt to develop underwater land.
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Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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