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Moving to California: affordable, casinos, air quality, teacher, job market.

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Old 03-14-2008, 02:41 PM
 
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Default I wanna move to Cali!

Hello! So, here's the low down. I am 23 years old and have lived in Fort Collins Colorado my entire life, way too long to live in one place! I just graduated from Colorado State University and I am ready to be on my way. Ideally, I would love to move to California... however from reading postings the affordability of it seems daunting.
My mom moved to Vegas in May, and unfortunately things are falling through and we have learned the hard way Vegas is not a place to live... but rather a place to visit! I was planning on moving to Vegas as well but now both of us are looking to relocate to California. The last time I was in Vegas we met some really nice guys from Riverside who were working out in Vegas, and suggested Riverside as a place to move. Affordable, decent SoCal location, good weather.
My mom and I are both in need of some warm weather! I am done with Colorado winters!!
My mom has her Masters in Special Education, and I just earned my Bachelors in Human Development & Family Studies, not totally sure what I want to do with it... But my mom wants to teach at an "inner city" school we we just flat out don't have here in vanilla town Fort Collins.
So I would just love input from anyone as to whether or not YOU would suggest the Riverside area. We would be looking to rent when we first got out there so what is the going rate for rent? 2bed 2bath?
Thanks for your help!!
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Old 03-14-2008, 03:37 PM
 
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But my mom wants to teach at an "inner city" school
No, she doesn't.
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Old 03-14-2008, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Sorry to break it to you, but IMO (having grown up in Riverside County) the Riverside / San Bernardino area is just an extension of Vegas; just not as many Casinos. The air quality has been cited as the worst in the country (like smoking 2 packs a day). And like Vegas, it gets very hot in the summers. The area is full of crime and drugs, fast food restaurants, and a lack luster job market forcing workers to commute to LA or Orange County. Sure it does have it's share of nice areas to live but, eventually you'll have to go shopping and mingle with the homeless, the gang bangers, and crack heads. This is definatly not a place to live if you are looking for the "California Experience", thinking of raising a family, or if you value your safety. I moved to Orange County not to long after graduating high school. Now that I want to raise a family, I'm actually moving to Colorado.

Move to Orange County if you'd like a positive "California Experience". There are plenty of jobs, short commutes, plenty to do, it's close to the beach and crime is low. If the cost of living worries you, either stay in CO or move somewhere like Texas.

As far as teaching jobs go... The word is that tons of teachers are going to get laid off before the next school year. Sorry for all the bad news but I'm just trying to save you from having to learn the same Vegas lesson all over again.
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Old 03-14-2008, 05:27 PM
 
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Thanks for the honesty, honestly! The truth "is what it is" and I would rather hear it now than learning again the hard way, like you said.

Additional input would be greatly appreciated. The good with the bad... and other places you might suggest.
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Old 03-14-2008, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Basically, the only place in Southern California that I'd live is Orange County. It's very nice here, has a strong and diverse job market, and is central to everything. To the north of us is LA (way to crowded and far to much traffic). San Diego is south (a couple visits is enough, just plain boring). East is Riverside (If I ever have to live in the desert again I'd move to Arizona, Utah, or New Mexico' at least it's nice there). And west is the open ocean.

If you have any specific questions, let me know and I'll try to help.

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Old 03-18-2008, 12:33 AM
 
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I haven't been living in CA for very long but since we are close in age I'll throw in my two cents. If you enjoy hanging out with people your own age, lounges/bars/clubs, fun things to do...Riverside is NOT where you want to be. I live in a nice quiet neighborhood in Moreno Valley and aside from strip malls, fast food restaurants, and a few malls there is nothing here. Even though some people here dislike LA, I personally like it and eventually I'll relocate myself there. Do some research in the LA area and surrounding cities as well as OC like some others suggested.

CA is definitely expensive though. Also, try to have a job lined up BEFORE you move here or make sure you have enough money saved up to support yourself for a few months. Finding a job may take some time, the economy is crappy, businesses/companies are cutting back and/or closing, and temp agencies aren't much help anymore either because they hardly have much work to give you. So do your research before you move out here and visit the area you're interested in if you can before you make a final decision. And try to have a job lined up or at least some interviews. Send out your resume and apply for jobs before hand. Goodluck to you.
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Old 03-18-2008, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Air quality is NOT bad where I live in Riverside. Southwest Riverside county is much cleaner that many SoCal areas. The sky is always blue, unless we get fog from the ocean. Riverside is a big county... There have been newspaper articles noting the difference between this area & the rest of Riverside county. Once you drive south of Perris & Moreno Valley, the air improves dramatically. Not to mention, LA county & San Bernardino are much worse anyhow.

There is also very little crime & drugs where I live. It's mostly white, upper middle class people who all moved from SD & OC. To act like it's some cesspool of crime is a joke. It's much safer here than living in LA & many OC cities. People move here to raise their kids & the elementary schools are considered to be excellent.

The weather is also cooler & more moderate in this section of Riverside. It can get hot in the daytime during summer (averages about 90 degrees), but temps drop 30 degrees at night. Personally, I like it warm and many people have pools anyway.
There is wine country out here & the terrain is gorgeous in the spring time too.

The Temecula area is a very nice & clean, and probably affordable to you, but is is boring. You're only 35 minutes from the beach (Oceanside), but about 1.5 hours from LA, 1 hour from SD & 1 hour from OC with minimal traffic; but with bad traffic you could double all that. Personally, I'd take SD over OC. OC isn't that interesting either...it's basically a string of suburbs, albeit closer to the ocean. Besides Disneyland, there's not a whole lot going on there either. SD is more expensive of course, but there's always a trade off for cheaper rent.

A 2 bd, 2 ba in the Temecula area is anywhere from $1100 to $1500 a month. It will likely be newer & very clean also.

All that said, as a young single person, I'm itching to move. I'm tired of driving far whenever I want to do more than go to a movie or shop. I personally am looking at LA, despite the smog, many sketchy areas, and overpriced rent.
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Old 03-18-2008, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I've got to agree with Orangeapple. Southwest Riverside County isn't too bad. Cleaner air, affordable housing, and an overall nicer area. I was just in the town of Menifee this past weekend for a friend’s birthday party. She lives in a very nice community, and owns a large, beautiful house, with extraordinary architecture. I hadn’t been out there in years and I was definitely impressed. However, before heading home I decided to fill up on gas at the local 7-11 next to the on-ramp. To no surprise, along came 3 trouble makers probably stopping in to get their 40 ounces for the weekend. I know their type. I just kept my eye on them and shook my head. Just a reminder of where I was (Riverside County).

By the way, it took forever and a day to get back home to Orange County. I asked my friend about their commute time to work. Her average commute time is about 1 hr to work and her husband’s was 1 ˝ hours to work. That’s about 2-3 hours driving a day. I wonder what Orangeapple’s commute time is? BTW, the reason people have to commute is there are more fast food restaurants on every corner paying minimum wage than actual businesses. Again, unless you are extremely lucky or can work from home you’ll have to either commute to LA, OC, or SD.

At first Riverside seems like a good idea because of the affordable housing, all the new communities and theaters, new schools. Those are the good times. Then after a few years of commuting and seeing your nice community start to deteriorate due to lack of redevelopment; regret sets in. Again speaking from experience here. Grew up in Moreno Valley.
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Old 03-18-2008, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I wonder what Orangeapple’s commute time is?
I work in Temecula. I drive 20 minutes from Menifee to my job; sometimes it's 30 min with worker's traffic (between 3-6pm).

My family members drive less than 10 minutes to their jobs. Many people I know work in the area, but it really depends on what you do. Obviously, some people still have to commute.
If you're going to commute, I think going to SD is better than OC, as far as traffic. I almost took a job in Escondido & it would've been about an hour.
Driving to LA in traffic is insane...

I don't know any 7-11 around here...did you stop in Lake Elsinore? Lake Elsinore is definitely not a nice area.

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Oh, and co-to-ca-asap, you might consider Corona. There's some nice parts; not ghetto at all. It's a good spot to get to OC & LA a little faster, although it's by the awful 91 fwy. I would think the prices for apartments are similar to Temecula & Riverside (the city). It is smoggy there of course & hotter than Southwest Riverside. If you'd like a more central location though, than that might be an idea.
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Old 03-19-2008, 02:48 AM
 
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All that said, as a young single person, I'm itching to move. I'm tired of driving far whenever I want to do more than go to a movie or shop. I personally am looking at LA, despite the smog, many sketchy areas, and overpriced rent.
Orangeapple, that's exactly how I'm feeling. I haven't been in Moreno Valley that long but I already know it's not where I want to be. I was raised in a major city and I love living in the city, right in the middle of everything. This suburban life is not for me, at least not right now, and I'm definitely looking to move to LA sometime in the next year. Let's be roomies!
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