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Old 04-22-2016, 08:11 PM
 
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Palm Springs is marketed to rich, affluent, gay TOURISTS, who live on the Californian Coast from San Francisco down to San Diego, and can afford to come into town and pay $500 a night for motels.

However, the gay RESIDENTS and straight residents (most are straight) are mostly far from rich; the median income of the city is just $40,000 (compared to over twice that in Seattle, Portland, San Diego, San Francisco). Most, work in the hotel / hospitality industries serving rich gay men from the coast, or, are artists, writers, and so on.

Retired gay men in Palm Springs are mostly *NOT* wealthy, nor are they into the "bar scene." They move there to retire and relax and have a nice house in the desert. They often move in and fix up older, mid century modern properties. Palm Springs is *ABSOLUTELY NOT* a rich enclave like Hillcrest, West Hollywood, Portland, or Seattle.

As for the younger crowd, they are mostly tourists, and they are into the bar and resort scene. However, City Officials and retired straight folks try to keep nightlife to a minimum since it's a retirement town. The Wallgreens on south palm canyon closes at 10pm !

Rental housing costs are very cheap, since property managers, except for CONAM Management who has destroyed the local rental market, do not use Rent Maximizing Software programs to increase rents. A one bedroom from a private landlord or local property manager (there are several still left who haven't sold out to the greedy tenticles of CONAM), averages $800 compared to $2000 on the coast.

As a result of these prices, there are a lot of straight folks who move from Western Riverside County to the Palm Springs side, in order to get cheaper rents.

Some of the straight folks from western riverside county, are conservative, mixing in their lifted pickups and so on into the otherwise gay and retired atmosphere. Somehow, people still get along. All of the inland empire will accumulate more single people, gay and straight, due to the property managers like CONAM, MG, and the Irvine Company who are greedy and raise rents by 10% to 25% a year, on the coast.

The above is also true of Joshua Tree, Yucca Valley, Redlands, Yucaipa, Victorville, in terms of the prices and property managers, however there is much less of a gay population in these other cities.

Due to new freeways in Central Riverside County, and Northern San Diego County, the ocean is now about 20 minutes closer (in Carlsbad and Oceanside).

Other GLBT friendly places that are cheap are hard to find in the southwest, they include Vegas, Phoenix, Albuquerque, and Santa Fe.

Yucaipa, will probably also accumulate more gays and straight singles, since it is closer to major employment centers in Riverside and San Bernardino Counties, and so far the property managers haven't taken it over yet. This, could change at a moments notice if CONAM decides to take over.

Shawna Gregory, now runs rent maximizing at CONAM. As you can see these executives have extensive backgrounds and earn six figure salaries - Her linkedin site hasn't been updated to include her recent transition to CONAM -
https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawna-gregory-64b72884
While you were busy grinding your ax about a property management company, you littered your post with numerous inaccuracies. Just a couple examples:

There is no Walgreens on South Palm Canyon - so their closing time is irrelevant (but why you would cite a non-existent Walgreens as evidence of a lack of "nightlife" is beyond me - unless your idea of fun is picking up your meds at 2am).

Rental housing is NOT "very cheap" and there's nothing that can be had in Palm Springs proper for $800. As for the property management company cited, they have a small presence in Palm Springs - nothing near any sort of presence to dominate a rental market.

Finally, comparing Palm Springs (a very small town) to major metropolitan areas such as Seattle, San Diego, Portland and LA is ludicrous. In no way shape or form can you compare a city of 40,000 to a city of millions.
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Old 04-22-2016, 11:52 PM
 
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I have a close family member who bought a very nice condo in Palm Springs about three years ago. His value has gone up about 35% since. (Though still affordable). The gay lifestyle is not "in your face", for lack of a better term, here. Though it IS totally accepted, and has been for decades. BTW, he is not into the bar scene, or other such clubs. He just wanted to live in an accepting community with nice weather. I am not sure why this is so unusual.
The gay lifestyle is not in the face of anyone who lives in Palm Springs except maybe near the resorts in the warm sands area. I don't know why the original poster, named Goodbye California, thought that everyone was into the bar scene. I do not see that. What I do see is a horrible and very tragic drug and homeless problem due to prop 47 and riverside county dumping its sex offenders in the palm springs, cabazon area. I didn't see this when first visiting the area in 2008.

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Old 04-22-2016, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Tri-State area near the colorado river
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While you were busy grinding your ax about a property management company, you littered your post with numerous inaccuracies. Just a couple examples:

There is no Walgreens on South Palm Canyon - so their closing time is irrelevant (but why you would cite a non-existent Walgreens as evidence of a lack of "nightlife" is beyond me - unless your idea of fun is picking up your meds at 2am).

Rental housing is NOT "very cheap" and there's nothing that can be had in Palm Springs proper for $800. As for the property management company cited, they have a small presence in Palm Springs - nothing near any sort of presence to dominate a rental market.

Finally, comparing Palm Springs (a very small town) to major metropolitan areas such as Seattle, San Diego, Portland and LA is ludicrous. In no way shape or form can you compare a city of 40,000 to a city of millions.
In terms of the census, Palm Springs is part of the LA Metropolitan Statistical Area which extends all the way to the AZ / CA border. There are employment connections that go back and forth across Banning pass between eastern Riverside county (the Coachella Valley) and the western parts of San Bernardino and Riverside Counties, and even LA proper. The Wallgreens in the Smoketree shopping center does close down at 10pm and many businesses close early. Coachella Valley rents average about $900, the only major property manager is CONAM - others, are smaller, and do not use the computer programs that raise rents to unaffordable levels. San Diego average rents were $900 7 years ago before the property managers started using the computer programs.
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Old 04-23-2016, 02:12 AM
 
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^^^Confirmed Tollerance999 and Arch98 in a new name!
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Old 04-23-2016, 03:52 PM
 
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The Walgreens in Smoke Tree is open all night. Party on dudes!

2465 E PALM CANYON DR
PALM SPRINGS, CA 92264
760-322-9351
Details for Walgreens at 2465 E PALM CANYON DR, PALM SPRINGS, CA 92264 | Directions for Walgreens at 2465 E PALM CANYON DR, PALM SPRINGS, CA 92264
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Old 04-23-2016, 07:09 PM
 
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I hear the Walgreens' 3am drag show is one of the best in town. :-)
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Old 06-28-2018, 11:49 PM
 
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Palm Springs is a marvelous place to life. I'm sorry several of the respondents became disillusioned with life in the desert. But their comments seem to reflect the worst stereo-types of our community rather than the reality of life that is very possible in the desert. There is a rich cultural life, opportunity for political engagement, a high level of volunteerism, and an active church life (some might say, God-forbid!) that is a source of community and social justice outreach. And it is EASY to meet and make good friends who are interested in more than just drinking all day. That is just an unfair blanket characterization of our very diverse, smart, and talented LGBT community. Life anywhere is what you pro-actively make of it, Palm Springs is a great place to make a life.

As for housing, the market is clearly less expensive than other desirable places in California. Although there is no way to buy a house in Las Palmas or The Movie Colony for under $500K. But there are other wonderful neighborhoods where you can buy a home in the $300's. Almost every neighborhood has LGBT residents.

Come spend some days here, connect with a gay realtor (there are hundreds of them) and your questions will begin to be answered.
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