What is the "INLAND EMPIRE" all about?

[SoCalDaveL]

Originally Posted by bouncethelight

Rainbow and the main part of DeLuz are both San Diego County and share the same zip code as Fallbrook.

Ahh. ok. It just seems like a small "blip" on the map with a tiny, barely noticeable exit on the 15 just before the Border Check. If there wasn't a small single sign saying Rainbow, I wouldn't even have known it was there.

Now I know.

And since its technically sharing its zip code w/ Fallbrook... then Temecula (now that Redhawk is considered Temecula) borders the SD County border. I still think most of its inhabitants rather identify with San Diego than Los Angeles, but the TV market believes otherwisse. Oh well.

[loveCali]

Originally Posted by CSchuman

It's funny but, every time I read about how the IE's air quality is the worst in the U.S, I get these little breathing spasms, like, I can feel the dirt enter my lungs. It's like the Forum Air Quality Placebo Effect.

Everytime I read/hear about the pollution here I laugh out loud. Really. Did anyone of those complaining of the bad air here ever lived in an European capital city? Where you can't see the buildings from across the street in the most part of the hot summer? Where you cannot breath if you walk through downtown at rush hour? When we moved here people were telling me that the air is sooo polluted here that you can't see the mountains in the worst days. The mountains are tens of miles away from the valley itself (if you don't live at their foot of course), while the buildings in major European capital cities are only tens of feets away and all you can see instead is a big cloud of smog.

[WestCobb]

I know the comment about devil worship in Redlands is outlandish, but it's an urban legend that goes way back in this area -- they worship the devil in the orange groves. As urban legends go, it's hard to pinpoint its exact origins, but I suspect the work of Mike Warnke, a self confessed Satanic "high priest" who grew up in the IE, had a lot to do with either a) starting the rumors or b) perpetuating them. This guy was a minor celebrity in evangelical circles in the 70s and 80s until the inevitable expose of the early 90s showed him to be a fraud. Everything else that was said about the area -- smog, drugs, gangs, crime, etc. etc. was spot on .. the devil worship thing ... hmmm... I suppose the tales have sparked some copy cat interest, but I am willing to bet that devil worship is much more prominent in the Bible Belt -- seeing as how one must first believe in the devil before worshipping him. Devil worship in general is kind of passe now .. it's been decades since La Vey started his church and heavy metal music's popularity peaked before acid washed jeans did, but hey .. I'm kind of happy to see the locals still keep the myth alive. I can even see a cheesy horror movie Inland Empire tie-in. Any budding film makers reading this thread?

[Livewire]

Originally Posted by Brenda88

I moved from the Inland Empire in February of this year. The worst place in the world for families, children activities, housing, jobs, and shopping. There have been so many budget cuts in the Inland Empire it is unreal. I moved from Redlands, Ca. They had high rent, not family oriented, the top "Devil Worshipping" city in the Ca and the US, gang members, poor policing, racism, education is ok, slum landlords, poverty among the causcian race, very little help for seniors, and kids just wander around unsupervised, need i say more...

San Bernardino is listed as being one of the cities with a "high murder rate", and high proverty rate among all races, gangs, drugs, poor policing, corruption, poor education system, and the list goes on. Riverside county was just not my cup of tea. People are very cold toward each other, and it is everyone for themselves. No unity at all. The same pertains to San Bernardino, Redlands, Redondo Beach, Long Beach, and most of the California cities. Riverside city bus service is does not offer good service at all. Riverside county is underdeveloped, racist, stupid, unprofessional, rent is extremely high, very little job growth, too far to go from one location to another, drugs, drugs, and more drugs, overcrowed schools, poor education system, etc.... Ignorance is rampant in California, and everyone wants to place the blame on everyone from city government, county, and state government. I refuse to suggest any other counties in California, as i found no others fit what my family needed, so i did not check any further. Just decided it was time to get out.

If you see the chance to relocate take it, but not before thoroughly researching every state. This is what you would look for, kid friendly, job economy, churches, the cost of housing, safe neighborhoods, crime, schools, shopping, city officials, police enforcement, taxes, commute to and from work, state government, theater, activities for yourself, community involvement, gyms, their located in proximity of major cities, night life, retirement communities. These are just starters. You do want to be well rounded.

My son came home and told me his friends said "What your mother found on the internet about Redlands is right". They told him devil worshipping was happening at the Barton Mansion, on a regular basis. I saw for myself a satanic sign painted on a closed gas station. I saw very few, and i mean a very few attending church during the week or Sunday's. Please, everyone donot bother responding. I lived in California for 25 years and know what i speak about. Have a wonderful and blessed day!!!

Are you sure youre not talking about Fontana? With the exception of devil-worshipping...
We drove through there recently to look at our old house...seems the whole neighbourhood went to gang bangers, drugs and bars on windows of houses in most of that section now. What a shame.

[sheri257]

Originally Posted by Donn2390

Seems to be a lot of unhappy people in here..!! We moved to Apple Valley from OC three years ago, and love everything about it. Commercial development is booming. Shopping centers are popping up everywhere. Big industry is moving in, which will create good jobs locally. They are even planning a new four year college in Victorville, to train the people for the many high tech jobs moving into the High Desert area. RE is far cheaper than anywhere else around. This is the direction the growth is headed.

Donn's right ... the IE is where the future growth of SoCal is headed. Now that housing prices are dirt cheap again ... people will move out here in even greater numbers than they are now. The IE has been great for us and, for that, we are grateful. It gave us a cheap place to live and it got me through nursing school. I still think it's one of the future boom areas of the state ...

But, having said all of that ... we're moving back to the coast now that we can afford it. We're ready for a little more culture, some urban planning, environmental consciousness and, quite frankly, a more educated, professional population. We did make some good friends here but ... we're not into dirt bikes, jacked up trucks and a lot of the stuff that people are into here.

Maybe we're just too liberal for this area. I drove by a house that had confederate flags the other day. In a lot of ways, this is the Texas portion of California ... for lack of a better term ... which, ultimately, doesn't work for us.

We're also looking forward to radical inventions like paved roads, sidewalks and drainage systems ... something that, unfortunately, has been sorely lacking in the five years we've been living out here in the high desert. While they've made a few improvements, it's mostly patch work. The infrastructure is practically non-existant here.

[mrgrape]

Darn i was looking forawrd to moving to IE
but devil worshippers and nazis are not my thing and pollution
Do any of u guys know good places in Socal with a good community college?
I was thinking of Irvine Valley Center....but not anymore because of this thread
Im kind of looking for something like Ocean Beach, PB, that kind of atmosphere?

[sheri257]

Originally Posted by mrgrape

but devil worshippers and nazis are not my thing and pollution

In the five years I've lived in the High Desert I haven't encountered devil worshippers or Nazis (unless you consider conservative rednecks Nazis ... LOL). I've had two crime incidents ... some young men tried to steal my car while I slowed down at an intersection in the middle of nowhere in the desert but, I floored the gas and got out of there. And the police did chase a suspect through our yard after stopping a car on a nearby street. Other than that ... I haven't had any problems with crime but, I also have big dogs on my property which, criminals tend to avoid.

I will say the pollution has gotten worse. When we first moved out here the skies were pretty clear but, the air has definitely gotten more hazy in the high desert ... probably with all of the people moving out here and, the fact that there hasn't been much rain in the last couple of years. Once the wind kicks up the dirt ... it does get very hazy now.

[Texasturkey]

Originally Posted by Brenda88

I moved from the Inland Empire in February of this year. The worst place in the world for families, children activities, housing, jobs, and shopping. There have been so many budget cuts in the Inland Empire it is unreal. I moved from Redlands, Ca. They had high rent, not family oriented, the top "Devil Worshipping" city in the Ca and the US, gang members, poor policing, racism, education is ok, slum landlords, poverty among the causcian race, very little help for seniors, and kids just wander around unsupervised, need i say more...

San Bernardino is listed as being one of the cities with a "high murder rate", and high proverty rate among all races, gangs, drugs, poor policing, corruption, poor education system, and the list goes on. Riverside county was just not my cup of tea. People are very cold toward each other, and it is everyone for themselves. No unity at all. The same pertains to San Bernardino, Redlands, Redondo Beach, Long Beach, and most of the California cities. Riverside city bus service is does not offer good service at all. Riverside county is underdeveloped, racist, stupid, unprofessional, rent is extremely high, very little job growth, too far to go from one location to another, drugs, drugs, and more drugs, overcrowed schools, poor education system, etc.... Ignorance is rampant in California, and everyone wants to place the blame on everyone from city government, county, and state government. I refuse to suggest any other counties in California, as i found no others fit what my family needed, so i did not check any further. Just decided it was time to get out.

If you see the chance to relocate take it, but not before thoroughly researching every state. This is what you would look for, kid friendly, job economy, churches, the cost of housing, safe neighborhoods, crime, schools, shopping, city officials, police enforcement, taxes, commute to and from work, state government, theater, activities for yourself, community involvement, gyms, their located in proximity of major cities, night life, retirement communities. These are just starters. You do want to be well rounded.

My son came home and told me his friends said "What your mother found on the internet about Redlands is right". They told him devil worshipping was happening at the Barton Mansion, on a regular basis. I saw for myself a satanic sign painted on a closed gas station. I saw very few, and i mean a very few attending church during the week or Sunday's. Please, everyone donot bother responding. I lived in California for 25 years and know what i speak about. Have a wonderful and blessed day!!!

Why look for "kid friendly?" Is that important to everyone in relocating?

[Fontucky]

It wasn't to me. My kids are grown and in the wind. To be perfectly honest, I prefer a neighborhood that's kid free as opposed to kid friendly. And god damned if I didn't find one.....

[ConsideringLA]

texas:

Unless you're on the coast, "kid friendly" contributes to lower crime and higher values. that's a fact - deal with it.