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05-31-2009, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by that1guy
Having grown up in Moreno Valley...(my dad also went to UCR in the late 1960s early 70s). You needed, and still need to go further to the coast to obtain certain goods and services. This is the suburban nature of the IE. A larger percentage of residents in the IE still have to commute to points further along the coast. The percent diminished in recent years, but it is still higher than LA county.
This reliance on LA is what defines this region as a suburb.
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huh??? boy either you lost me or I lost you. You are making very little sense. What goods and services? IE has housing, entertainment, medical facilities, universities, mountains, lakes, outdoor and indoor living so what more is there? They even have InNout burgers.
Nita 
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05-31-2009, 09:37 AM
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Man, does it cover a lot of area, I just checked it out. Golly I never realized places like Apple Valley could be only 1/2 hour drive to L.A. S.D or OC??  I really do not quite see how IE for the most part can be called a suburb and I personally see lots of thing that are different in the two areas.
Nita
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05-31-2009, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by that1guy
Having grown up in Moreno Valley...(my dad also went to UCR in the late 1960s early 70s). You needed, and still need to go further to the coast to obtain certain goods and services. This is the suburban nature of the IE. A larger percentage of residents in the IE still have to commute to points further along the coast. The percent diminished in recent years, but it is still higher than LA county.
This reliance on LA is what defines this region as a suburb.
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This could explain all the traffic around 5 every afternoon on the 91 going East! 
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05-31-2009, 02:35 PM
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huh??? boy either you lost me or I lost you. You are making very little sense. What goods and services? IE has housing, entertainment, medical facilities, universities, mountains, lakes, outdoor and indoor living so what more is there? They even have InNout burgers.
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As well as Tommy's, The Hut, and an excellent chicken and waffles restaurant (in Fontana). Who needs to go to L.A. now?
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05-31-2009, 04:08 PM
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As well as Tommy's, The Hut, and an excellent chicken and waffles restaurant (in Fontana). Who needs to go to L.A. now?
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i am wondering the same thing, what is not in the IE that one would need to trapes off to Los Angeles for? The DODGERS? Or maybe Phillipes (I think that is how it is spelled)
Nita
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05-31-2009, 04:33 PM
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This reliance on LA is what defines this region as a suburb.
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sub⋅urb [suhb-urb] Show IPA
–noun
1. a district lying immediately outside a city or town, esp. a smaller residential community.
The entire Inland Empire, including Riverside and San Bernardino Counties, does not lie immediately outside of LA nor is the entire region a small residential community. The perceived "reliance" on L.A. has nothing to do with whether or not hundreds of square miles totally unrelated to Los Angeles can be considered a single large suburb. It just means that L.A. is a really big, interesting city, and if you live close enough to drive there, you might wanna do it. I personally don't want to and never do, therefor there is no such "reliance" on my part.
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05-31-2009, 04:36 PM
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All you have to do is look at the 91 or the 60 in the morning to realize IE is part of LA.
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05-31-2009, 05:24 PM
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Heck, I even consider San Diego to be an L.A. suburb, lol. Seriously, I don't know how to answer this question. It all depends on your definitions I guess. I think that from an economic standpoint, I.E. is sort of a suburb, in that if not for the job market of L.A., most of I.E. would be farmland or empty. Those communities have experienced their growth largely because of real estate shortages and hi R.E. prices in L.A. area as a whole.
It is hard to look at the demographic and draw conclusions, since the demographics vary considerably from community to community in L.A. itself. Personally, I prefer a geographical approach. Everything that is in the bowl (the L.A. Basin) is L.A., so part of I.E. would be L.A. burbs, while the Mohave and Colorado deserts would not be.
It is all in how you look at it. No one answer is right unless you specifically define what you mean by the term "suburb".
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05-31-2009, 05:35 PM
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I think the bigger definition problem is the term "I.E.". It's so large and diverse that lumping it all together is a mistake. Maybe when the term Inland Empire was first coined, it made sense for all that uninhabited land to be put in the same category. Now that different areas have grown at different rates, that the northern parts commute to L.A. and the southern parts commute to S.D. (in general), considering it all the same just doesn't make sense. I mean, seriously....Temecula and the Mojave National Preserve are just not in the same "area". They're just not.
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05-31-2009, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by nmnita
huh??? boy either you lost me or I lost you. You are making very little sense. What goods and services? IE has housing, entertainment, medical facilities, universities, mountains, lakes, outdoor and indoor living so what more is there? They even have InNout burgers.
Nita 
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It does have A LOT of housing, but it lacks in: Entertainment (can't really go to a Laker's game, go to an upscale club, see a play, no great museums, also a severe lack of a music scene), certain shops (there is a reason why business owners shop in LA, again more upscale shops in LA...pretty much a wider variety of shops), medicine (Loma Linda lacks certain equipment that UCLA and USC have), universities (UCR is rising, but nowhere the level of Cal Tech, UCLA, USC, Occidental), and beaches.
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