Julian,CA vs Alpine,CA (San Diego, San Bernardino: for sale, low crime, how much)

[goldminer]

Someone told me (a bit of a jackass) that Alpine is a bad place because it's so close to the border.

Races in Alpine:

* White Non-Hispanic (84.3%)
* Hispanic (10.2%)
* Other race (2.9%)
* Two or more races (2.2%)
* American Indian (1.9%)
* Filipino (0.9%)
* Black (0.8%)


City data info shows a population as this
Races in Julian:

* White Non-Hispanic (87.0%)
* Hispanic (8.1%)
* Other race (3.9%)
* Two or more races (2.5%)
* American Indian (2.3%)
* Black (0.7%)

(Total can be greater than 100% because Hispanics could be counted in other races)

I currently live in lovelock ,NV and I feel the statistics are proper I do not think they are off in their calculations.

Races in Lovelock:

* White Non-Hispanic (65.6%)
* Hispanic (24.2%)
* Other race (10.0%)
* American Indian (9.5%)
* Two or more races (4.6%)
* Black (0.8%)


Would like to hear from people who lived in the towns
what the pros and cons are.

How come they do not grow very much or have they?

the jackass I spoke to was saying he knows of businesses being for sale for years in this towns and nothing ever changes.

Is it possible to commute?

To me it seems like a rural paradise much like the central coast San Louis obispo county and Santa Barbra county.

[movingoutofCA]

I can't speak of the commute or the jobs but we camp up there and I cannot tell you enough how much we LOVE Julian. If my husband would be willing to commute 2 - 3 hours into San Bernardino every day, we would live there.

[goldminer]

One day maybe we have commuter helicopters like Brazil.

[beachwizard]

Julian - Alpine
These are two totally different towns.

Julian is in the mountains, pine trees, meadows, historic buildings, great character, great bike riding.

Alpine, where did they get that name? It is not alpine in character. The town is located next to a busy interstate. The hills are brush covered, and brown from April to December.

[Sassberto]

Originally Posted by goldminer

Someone told me (a bit of a jackass) that Alpine is a bad place because it's so close to the border.

Would like to hear from people who lived in the towns
what the pros and cons are.

How come they do not grow very much or have they?

the jackass I spoke to was saying he knows of businesses being for sale for years in this towns and nothing ever changes.

Is it possible to commute?

To me it seems like a rural paradise much like the central coast San Louis obispo county and Santa Barbra county.

It would appear that said "jackass" doesn't know what he's talking about.

Alpine has grown tremendously in the past 10 years and went from rural town to commuter exurb. It's easy access to I-8 means many people commute west and there is a ton of new housing there. They do not really have the commerical and infrastructure to support the growth they've already had and there is some tension from the longtime residents against the newcomers.

Julian however is isolated and only accessible by 2 twisting mountain roads. Julian is mostly a tourist and vacation home destination, but there are several neighborhoods in and around Julian.

The main reason the areas haven't grown as fast as say, inland North County is the difficult commute and relative geographic isolation. As for racial breakdown, they are both mostly white, ranging from rural poor to upper-middle class. Much of the new housing in Alpine tends to be the of the mcMansion type. Also both areas suffer from high wildfire danger which is a part of living in rural east San Diego county.

[SEAandATL]

Julian is a nice town, and they have some good apple pie!

[jimhcom]

Alpine is a wonderful place to live, if you can afford it. Small town feeling, uncrowded shopping, ocean views from 30 miles, great schools, family friendly,low crime, clean, 30 minutes to the coast. The downside is that it takes about 750K to own a home in this town. As far as a mexican problem, Jackass does not know what he is talking about. There is much cheeper housing down the hill, but people pay up to live here. Julian is nice also and more affordable, but more isolated, and for me, too far to commute.

[leighland]

What about the "High Profile Vehicle" warnings when the wind picks up on the 8. I've heard that 18 wheelers get knocked over.

[jimhcom]

The wind does kick up east of Alpine at times and there are some trucks who ignore the signs and get blown over. It is not a big issue.

[roger9552]

Alpine is within easy commuting distance of San Diego (about 25 miles), unfortunately I can't say the same about Julian. In between them is Pine Valley which is about 20 miles east of Alpine on Interstate 8 Alpine is about 2,000 feet above sea level and unfortunately gets alot of pollution blown in from western San Diego county i.e. San Diego city.