Why do people bring their dogs into stores? (universities, allergies)
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As long as the dog is well mannered, I see no issue. I'd rather see the dog in the store than left in the car if it is warm. Sometimes I have brought my dogs thinking it was going to be cool, but we all know weather forecasters are not always right, and the day will get warm enough to make leaving the dog in the car an issue. Sometimes if you need to bring your dog to a vet appoint, you have to keep him/her with you for the rest of your errands. If it is a warm/hot day, you can't just leave them in the car (especially if, like me, you live nearly an hour from town, it really isn't possible, or affordable nowadays with the cost of fuel, to bring your dog back home before doing the rest of your shopping).
As for the "health concern" I am more concerned my kid will catch something from another child than from a dog. Do you refuse to eat at someone's house because they have house dogs? Of course not, it's pretty absurd. Historically, banning dogs from establishments was not started for "health concerns" but for the same reason a private establishment can ban carrying a weapon into a store. Dogs historically accompanied their owners for protection and it was a way of disarming people before coming into the store. Nowadays dogs are much more of a companion animal. The "health concern" reason was only applied when there was an outbreak of rabies in a certain area, which is a moot point nowadays, especially if the dog is tagged. And if my dog has ringworm, as was stated in a prior post (or even mange), the dog isn't coming into my house or car, let alone into a store, until it is cleared up.
Accidents do happen, but it isn't possible for owners to clean it up in most stores. I had it happen once with a puppy, I brought her to a vet appoint, then went to home depot afterward, she peed (even though I took it to a "green area" outside before I brought her in), tried to ask if I could have something to clean it up and I was treated like I was a horrible person. In some stores (like Petco and Petsmart) they have little stations of cleaning supplies for accidents, both human and canine. That would be awesome to see in other stores, even if pets are forbidden, since accidents do happen.
When I Originally started this thread,i wanted to know why people brought their dogs in the store.
And i still haven't got a straight answer
Is it for attention?
Why?
And i too,have seen dogs pee on the floor and people not pick it up!
And for the poster a two pages back that mentioned "dogs are cleaner then kids"
Really!
They do it for attention, or because they were out with the dog and need to run in and get something quick (and it's illegal to leave the dog in the car).
I have seen children sneeze and wipe their hands on things in the store. I have also seen little finger sized holes poked into ground beef.
Personally, I don't think dogs or kids belong in food stores.
As long as the dog is well mannered, I see no issue. I'd rather see the dog in the store than left in the car if it is warm. Sometimes I have brought my dogs thinking it was going to be cool, but we all know weather forecasters are not always right, and the day will get warm enough to make leaving the dog in the car an issue. Sometimes if you need to bring your dog to a vet appoint, you have to keep him/her with you for the rest of your errands. If it is a warm/hot day, you can't just leave them in the car (especially if, like me, you live nearly an hour from town, it really isn't possible, or affordable nowadays with the cost of fuel, to bring your dog back home before doing the rest of your shopping).
As for the "health concern" I am more concerned my kid will catch something from another child than from a dog. Do you refuse to eat at someone's house because they have house dogs? Of course not, it's pretty absurd. Historically, banning dogs from establishments was not started for "health concerns" but for the same reason a private establishment can ban carrying a weapon into a store. Dogs historically accompanied their owners for protection and it was a way of disarming people before coming into the store. Nowadays dogs are much more of a companion animal. The "health concern" reason was only applied when there was an outbreak of rabies in a certain area, which is a moot point nowadays, especially if the dog is tagged. And if my dog has ringworm, as was stated in a prior post (or even mange), the dog isn't coming into my house or car, let alone into a store, until it is cleared up.
Accidents do happen, but it isn't possible for owners to clean it up in most stores. I had it happen once with a puppy, I brought her to a vet appoint, then went to home depot afterward, she peed (even though I took it to a "green area" outside before I brought her in), tried to ask if I could have something to clean it up and I was treated like I was a horrible person. In some stores (like Petco and Petsmart) they have little stations of cleaning supplies for accidents, both human and canine. That would be awesome to see in other stores, even if pets are forbidden, since accidents do happen.
I now have 3 dogs since I started this this thread.
Even If I even think im going to be out for more than a little while,i leave my dogs at home where they will be more comfortable!
If me or my wife had to rely on our dog for protection we'd be in trouble!
I have the most gentle kindest dogs know to man
I Remember when i was 12 my grandfather responding to a robbery in or near central park(grandfather was NYPD)
The Robber shot her 2 dogs and took her purse!
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Originally Posted by MissNM
They do it for attention, or because they were out with the dog and need to run in and get something quick (and it's illegal to leave the dog in the car).
I have seen children sneeze and wipe their hands on things in the store. I have also seen little finger sized holes poked into ground beef.
So a Dog not being able to,wipe his Butt or brush their own teeth,sitting in a shopping cart is cleaner than a sneezing kid?
Do you really believe that?
Although i believe you,Ive personally have never seen a kids punch holes in meat.
Last edited by hitman619; 06-25-2012 at 04:02 PM..
I have a dog,but the last place i want to bring him is to my local Albertsons
Dog people have a mentality all their own. You should live in Austin. The ratio is one dog per person here, it seems. I think it's worse to see them in my outdoor cafe's and restaurants. I am not real fond of flying dog hair ending up in my food. People must feel they can't have separation anxiety. Who knows? Weird.
We take our dogs to certain stores, such a home depot. They love it, it's good practice for their social skills & obedience training. What they are never never allowed to do is sniff or approach someone without an invite, bark, be disruptive, wander on the leash. If I stop they stop & sit. If I walk, they walk with me. We do not take them to grocery stores. We do watch for fearful or scared kids, we are very respectful of fears. Our dogs are the size of a sheltie, not huge not small. I do take treats with me since people, especially kids, want to give treats & have them do tricks. Our eskie is more than happy to oblige. We always have potty bags for when they go in public OUTSIDE, never ever inside a store, they are better trained & we know to potty them before we go somewhere.
.What they are never never allowed to do is sniff or approach someone without an invite, bark, be disruptive, wander on the leash. If I stop they stop & sit. If I walk, they walk with me. We do not take them to grocery stores. We do watch for fearful or scared kids, we are very respectful of fears. Our dogs are the size of a sheltie, not huge not small. I do take treats with me since people, especially kids, want to give treats & have them do tricks.
Sounds like my dogs
We should have a doggie play date
I have a dog,but the last place i want to bring him is to my local Albertsons
Most stores won't allow them in unless they are seeing eye dogs or other sorts of trained dogs to assist the handicapped. That said, I've seen lots of restaurants which will allow people to bring their pets if they sit out on the patio which isn't a bad compromise. I saw a young fellow (he had to be 23-24) with a golden retriever last Sunday at a breakfast spot I like to visit and I swear all five of the young waitresses dotted over him and the puppy dog. If I were single again I'd be tempted to start bringing a dog due to all the attention you get from the young ladies.
Location: NW Oregon native currently residing in the Mojave Desert
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hitman619
I now have 3 dogs since I started this this thread.
Even If I even think im going to be out for more than a little while,i leave my dogs at home where they will be more comfortable!
If me or my wife had to rely on our dog for protection we'd be in trouble!
I have the most gentle kindest dogs know to man
I Remember when i was 12 my grandfather responding to a robbery in or near central park(grandfather was NYPD)
The Robber shot her 2 dogs and took her purse!
So a Dog not being able to,wipe his Butt or brush their own teeth,sitting in a shopping cart is cleaner than a sneezing kid?
Do you really believe that?
Although i believe you,Ive personally have never seen a kids punch holes in meat.
Not all dogs are like yours or mine. Some dogs are far more comfortable with their humans than being left alone, even if it is in their own home.
I never said a dog was cleaner, the point is, a human, whether child or adult, is far more likely to have pathogens that you can get sick from. There are very few zoonotic diseases that is transferable between man and dog and the scary one (rabies) is vaccinated against.
I said historically (i.e., long ago) dogs were banned for the same reason a private business could ban guns, and that nowadays (i.e., modern times) dogs are companion animals (the tiny little, non-service animals I see brought in would not be able to defend anyone, lol).
My dogs are extremely disciplined and well trained (and yes, most other people's dogs annoy the hell out of me ), but I almost never bring my dogs with me, they do however, need to go to the vet periodically for their routine health checks and vaccines. I live almost an hour away from town, have a large fuel hog (no way to transport my four huge dogs and four kids in a honda ), and I live in the desert (i.e., hot weather, not appropriate to leave your faithful companions in the car). Going into town to do one thing (including taking the dogs straight to the vet and back without combining shopping tasks) is sacrilegious in our house. I do limit my shopping to the petco/petsmart, feed store, home depot and like places that dogs are not banned during vet visit days. I'm not going to bring my dogs into a grocery store, they are huge animals, lol (though I never brought my chihuahua inside a grocery store either), but I have no qualms about seeing other dogs inside a grocery store, especially since I usually only see it in warm weather. Would you rather see those dogs suffering of heat exhaustion in the cars?
Do you refuse to eat at a friend's house who has house dogs? If not, do you sit in the same sofas that the dog puts his "poopy butt" without washing your hands first before you eat? Dogs live with people, in their homes, day in, day out. I'd think if dogs were the nasty, vile, disease vectors you make them sound, such a symbiotic relationship would not be in existence today. Statistically people who have pets are healthier than those who do not. I see no difference between dog-in-kitchen and dog-in-grocery store.
I have seen kids poke holes in meat at the grocery store, all the time!
If you have dogs for protection, you have to realize that is what they are for, they are there to lay their lives on the line for yours. That is what the ones who love you do, that is what your faithful companion dog might do, no matter his/her size (if they have the instinct and heart), and that is what a dedicated guard dog will do. Not all defenses are fool proof, but if you live where the law abiding citizen is not allowed to carry weapons, NY being one such place, what defense does one have against the criminals who do? I have in turn seen many times that a crime was thwarted because of dog(s) and some gave their life doing so.
Last edited by YellowHorse; 06-26-2012 at 10:23 AM..
Reason: spelling errors
The short answer is that the Dogging-down of America is a perfect companion to its Dumbing-down. The practice of people taking their dogs into businesses and restaurants is being encouraged because such reduction in common-sense standards is a small but viable part of the plan to take us down.
That's not to claim that some smart people don't own dogs, but rather to assert that even smart people sometimes do foolish things, especially when foolish things become popular.
In places like Boulder, it's very fashionable these days to be, not just a dog owner, but also a "dog guardian" as they are now entitled to be known in that beautiful Colorado city.
For most people, it's more important to be fashionable and popular, than almost anything else.
I see dogs and cats as sinister companions of humans, witness cat crap parasite Toxoplasma gondii. If you live with dogs or cats, you also share their gut bacteria, because dogs and cats are filthy animals. Bacteria from their crap gets everywhere, even though the cat pretends to be a clean animal. The ruse is broken only when the cat raises one hind leg in the air, all the better to lick her anus, but at least people don't try to bring their cats to restaurants.
The dog will eat anything it can, even that; it can lick itself too. Unlike the cat, the dog craps anywhere, anytime it wants. Not all dog owners clean up after their "pets," so all the dog poop run-off ends up back in our water supply.
It was once common sense for sanitary reasons to keep animals separated from human activities, especially eating, but common sense is no longer the rule of the land.
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), but I almost never bring my dogs with me, they do however, need to go to the vet periodically for their routine health checks and vaccines. I live almost an hour away from town, have a large fuel hog (no way to transport my four huge dogs and four kids in a honda 
), and I live in the desert (i.e., hot weather, not appropriate to leave your faithful companions in the car). Going into town to do one thing (including taking the dogs straight to the vet and back without combining shopping tasks) is sacrilegious in our house. I do limit my shopping to the petco/petsmart, feed store, home depot and like places that dogs are not banned during vet visit days. I'm not going to bring my dogs into a grocery store, they are huge animals, lol (though I never brought my chihuahua inside a grocery store either), but I have no qualms about seeing other dogs inside a grocery store, especially since I usually only see it in warm weather. Would you rather see those dogs suffering of heat exhaustion in the cars?
