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Old 11-05-2014, 05:06 PM
 
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LA will pay 30%+ or more for the same job (talking white collar here). From a career advancement perspective, LA offers vastly more opportunity. For non-degreed / labor, it's probably the same.
Is it really 30% more? That sounds a little high. I can't imagine moving to LA and earning an extra $27k a year as a recent college grad
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Old 11-06-2014, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Carcosa
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Where do they commute to in the SD area? Anywhere except directly south of Camp Pendelton sounds miserable!
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Old 11-07-2014, 12:29 AM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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People complain about the wages in San Diego being lower than what you find in L.A., but I think it's just conjecture. In fact, according to the Census numbers, wages in San Diego County appear to be higher than L.A.'s.

Median annual wages in San Diego County: $32,466
Median annual wages in Los Angeles County: $28,576

Median household income in San Diego County: $63,727
Median household income in Los Angeles County: $55,192

San Diego County, California - Selected Economic Characteristics: 2006-2008

Los Angeles County, California - Selected Economic Characteristics: 2006-2008
I would think the Antelope Valley, skews this. If you take that out, I doubt that SD wages are clearly higher.
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Old 11-07-2014, 10:20 AM
 
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Where do they commute to in the SD area? Anywhere except directly south of Camp Pendelton sounds miserable!
Carlsbad. They average 50 minutes to get to the office from Irvine, Rancho Santa Margarita, Lagunas, Aliso Viejo etc. That is better or comparable with commute time to Carlsbad from Chula Vista, Santee or Temecula. Very doable.
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Old 11-07-2014, 01:04 PM
 
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I would think the Antelope Valley, skews this. If you take that out, I doubt that SD wages are clearly higher.
If you look into median household income map LA looks like gigantic sprawl of poverty with exceptions of few areas mostly in the north west quadrant. Do not get me wrong, there is wealth in LA but you need to know where to go or you will be lost in ocean of neighborhoods which will make you think about San Diego as of prosperous and desirable place to be. Things start to change in Orange county and you can see about 60 miles long corridor of high income areas along I-5 from Irvine to La Jolla.
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Old 11-08-2014, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Sandy Eggo - Kensington
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I would think the Antelope Valley, skews this. If you take that out, I doubt that SD wages are clearly higher.
SD has a much higher educational attainment and a lower poverty rate than LA. It's even more noticeable when comparing just city limits


Los Angeles (city) QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

San Diego (city) QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau
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Old 11-08-2014, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Sandy Eggo - Kensington
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Is it really 30% more? That sounds a little high. I can't imagine moving to LA and earning an extra $27k a year as a recent college grad
30-35% more is what you are likely get in the SF Bay area and DC.
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:35 AM
 
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LA has the Santa Monica, El Segundo and Venice tech clusters. Irvine and Costa Mesa are big tech hubs now. If you want a job at Google, YouTube, Amazon you won't find one in SD but all those employers are expanding heavily into the greater LA / OC megaplex. So while programmer job with 3-5 yrs experience may be at parity between SD and LA, many of the higher-pay, higher end jobs in tech don't exist in SD.
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Old 11-08-2014, 04:32 PM
 
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LA has the Santa Monica, El Segundo and Venice tech clusters. Irvine and Costa Mesa are big tech hubs now. If you want a job at Google, YouTube, Amazon you won't find one in SD but all those employers are expanding heavily into the greater LA / OC megaplex. So while programmer job with 3-5 yrs experience may be at parity between SD and LA, many of the higher-pay, higher end jobs in tech don't exist in SD.
They have Silicon Beach and now they are starting to have big news worthy success stories. Snapchat, Beats, Oculus Rift (more OC but still) who were bought or are valued for over a billion dollars. There is also Hulu, eHarmony, spaceX, and so on. And now there are Tech + Entertainment/Media companies starting up and becoming bought for billions or hundreds of millions. I know a lot of people who were offered jobs in LA for $250K+ per year. I don't know anybody offered that in SD. There is a huge difference in the jobs available between places like SF, LA vs SD.
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Old 11-08-2014, 10:57 PM
 
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I have never seen two San Diegans, correct me if either of you is not from San Diego, with such strong affinities for our two great sister cities to the north!

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LA has the Santa Monica, El Segundo and Venice tech clusters. Irvine and Costa Mesa are big tech hubs now. If you want a job at Google, YouTube, Amazon you won't find one in SD but all those employers are expanding heavily into the greater LA / OC megaplex. So while programmer job with 3-5 yrs experience may be at parity between SD and LA, many of the higher-pay, higher end jobs in tech don't exist in SD.
The presence of high tech companies has been a great supplement to Los Angeles' and continues to benefit its economic prowess as much as its manufacturing and entertainment sectors do. Many do not know that Los Angeles County actually has the most high tech sector jobs than any other locale in the nation. This news flash could give anyone a quick summary on that matter.

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They have Silicon Beach and now they are starting to have big news worthy success stories. Snapchat, Beats, Oculus Rift (more OC but still) who were bought or are valued for over a billion dollars. There is also Hulu, eHarmony, spaceX, and so on. And now there are Tech + Entertainment/Media companies starting up and becoming bought for billions or hundreds of millions. I know a lot of people who were offered jobs in LA for $250K+ per year. I don't know anybody offered that in SD. There is a huge difference in the jobs available between places like SF, LA vs SD.
Silicon Beach is a great moniker for the L.A. tech scene! It's certainly helped others in the decision to relocate from the north (valley vs beach? It's an easy answer)! While there may be a disparity in the number or type of high tech jobs offered between the three Californian cities, the overall difference in available jobs is not that great. The top ten jobs in each city are listed below as determined by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, 2014. The three proceeding metrics after each job posted are Average Salary, Entry Level Salary, and # of Employed. You'll find that for the most part, industry supports the presence of many various medical, law, tech, and architect/engineering type professions in all three cities. Interestingly enough, I found Los Angeles to have a job sector among its top ten not found in the others' top rankings: airline pilots, co-pilots, and flight engineers. It might be safe to assume higher pay rates are to be found in Los Angeles for those type of jobs. Other than that, your average pay is likely in the same ballpark among these cites.

San Francisco:
1 Family and General Practitioners $182,470, $130,830, 2,370
2 Surgeons $182,050, $130,110, 390
3 General Internists $178,990, $81,290, 1,500
4 Judges, Magistrate Judges, and Magistrates $171,170, $108,240, 390
5 Nurse Anesthetists $169,720, $75,180, 310
6 Natural Sciences Managers $167,210, $100,220, 2,760
7 General Pediatricians $164,610, $48,860, 790
8 Architectural and Engineering Managers $159,330, $104,590, 5,420
9 Marketing Managers $158,180, $93,960, 7,040
10 Computer and Information Systems Managers $154,960, $105,290, 10,040

Los Angeles:
1 Psychiatrists $182,230, $81,620, 2,010
2 General Internists $180,750, $84,240, 1,510
3 Nurse Anesthetists $171,800, $128,630, 310
4 Judges, Magistrate Judges, and Magistrates $171,180, $157,180, 550
5 Architectural and Engineering Managers $153,310, $100,480, 10,260
6 Natural Sciences Managers $151,180, $86,310, 1,610
7 Lawyers $149,790, $73,170, 29,980
8 General Pediatricians $149,470, 102,260, 2,040
9 Airline Pilots, Copilots, and Flight Engineers $139,510, $91,080, 2,430
10 Computer and Information Systems Managers $138,750, $85,240, 13,990

San Diego:
1 Family and General Practitioners $182,520, $86,180, 1,360
2 Other Physicians and Surgeons $176,780, $57,580, 2,650
3 Surgeons $176,450, $55,690, 690
4 Natural Sciences Managers $165,340, $93,300, 1,510
5 Nurse Anesthetists $163,510, $84,440, 90
6 General Dentists $145,980, $66,010, 1,030
7 General Pediatricians $140,270, $47,240, 550
8 Computer and Information Systems Managers $139,050, $85,010, 3,960
9 Architectural and Engineering Managers $138,000, $98,540, 3,250
10 Other Specialists Dentists $136,720, $103,790, 150
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