Why is my speeding ticket so high $440? (home, to live in)

[Jenkay]

Originally Posted by Bandon

It's not like that at all..actually I see it as the reverse: It's the slow ones who decide that nobody elses time is important and decide what speed everyone else is going to be allowed to go who are the selfish ones.

How inconsiderate is THAT ??? At least I don't play road monitor and decide what speed everyone else will go. And you call ME selfish ? HA !!!

Not selfish. Hypocritical. Because you DO seem to think you should be able to dictate what speed everyone should go.

[Bandon]

Originally Posted by Jenkay

Not selfish. Hypocritical. Because you DO seem to think you should be able to dictate what speed everyone should go.

WRONG. I want to go MY speed, that's all. How is objecting to those who want to slow everyone else down, simply so me and others who want to go our own speeds hypocritical ??? Isn't it selfish for slower traffic not to pull over when they see others wanting/needing to pass ?

Can you address these questions because I was always under the impression that it was simple common courtesy to allow faster traffic to go past. Faster drivers aren't the ones trying to control everyone else.

But you can't ever tell a slow driver that. Obviously. You all get quite defensive and bunged up when one of us even IMPLIES that you are the hypocritical selfish ones.

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by PollyGlott

Wrong. I'm a bleeding-heart liberal and I have absolutely no compassion for the OP.

Not all bleeding hearts have compassion for him, but only a bleeding heart would.

[Pretzelogik]

Originally Posted by angrygreenfraggle

I was pulled over for speeding at 86 mph. The speed limit was 65 I believe. I was informed by mail that my ticket cost would be $440 and if I wanted to go to traffic school it would be $492. This ticket is way out of my budget it just seems way too high! I guess my question is why is my ticket so high? And is there a way I can lower it? The voilation is 22349A any advice would be appreciated.

CA needs the $$$

[Jenkay]

Originally Posted by Bandon

WRONG. I want to go MY speed, that's all. How is objecting to those who want to slow everyone else down, simply so me and others who want to go our own speeds hypocritical ??? Isn't it selfish for slower traffic not to pull over when they see others wanting/needing to pass ?

Can you address these questions because I was always under the impression that it was simple common courtesy to allow faster traffic to go past. Faster drivers aren't the ones trying to control everyone else.

But you can't ever tell a slow driver that. Obviously. You all get quite defensive and bunged up when one of us even IMPLIES that you are the hypocritical selfish ones.

If you want to drive faster than the rest of traffic, it's not everybody else's responsibility to accomodate you. Honestly, I often drive 75-80 mph on my way to work in the morning (and yeah, if I got an expensive ticket for doing 80 it WOULD be all my fault), but if people are going slower than me I simply hang back and wait for a safe opportunity to pass them. No tailgating, no weaving in and out of traffic, no flipping people off, no giving myself an ulcer.

Certainly it's common courtesy for slower drivers to exit the far left (or "passing") lane if somebody would like to pass them, and for the most part people do. When they don't, again, I simply wait for an advantageous time to pass them.

My philosphy is that two wrongs don't make a right, so being an jerk to someone just because you think they've wronged you (when they probably don't even know you exist) makes you just as much of a problem as they are. The road isn't your personal autobahn, and being a nuisance and a menace just because you think everyone should operate at YOUR speed makes you a bad driver, too. (I'm speaking in the collective "you", not the personal "you" so don't think I'm attacking.)

[Frank-solo]

Police do stop slow drivers, by the way. but as Jenkay says, drive around them and move on.

[Gnutella]

Obeying the $peed limit is all about $afety.

[Gnutella]

Originally Posted by Frank-solo

Police do stop slow drivers, by the way. but as Jenkay says, drive around them and move on.

But what if you can't drive around them? What if they're blocking more than one lane?

[Jenkay]

Originally Posted by Gnutella

But what if you can't drive around them? What if they're blocking more than one lane?

I'd probably beep at them at that point to try to draw their attention to the fact that they're blocking two lanes, just as I'd beep at someone to let them know the light's green once it becomes obvious they haven't noticed.... Although I've never seen that happen on the freeway, ever, and I can't recall ever having encountered that on a city street, unless it was a delivery vehicle trying to negotiate a turn or something... In which case, duh, you wait.

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by Bandon

I'm on the OPs side. The police everywhere it seems are only too ready to toss speeding tickets around like candy, but I NEVER (and I'm not exaggerating) see them pulling over the slow drivers that are the cause of road rage.

Why don't they target THESE slugs as they are the ones who need to be removed from the roads.

But at the very LEAST, be grateful that you at least get to GO a decent speed. Around here people take 20 minutes pulling away from a signal to get up to the breakneck speed of 25. And THIS is in a 45 zone.

The police don't give a flying frogs fat butt about curing road rage. I once honked at an elderly man (who shouldn't have been driving in the first place) who pulled out in front of me from a parking lot, WITHOUT even glancing in my direction, proceeded to slow me down from 45 to like 15. He didn't even NOTICE my honking. But an effing cop did. MoFo was a real ass too. When I pointed out what had actually happened, he didn't even want to hear it. He said he could arrest me right now for road rage. Well, unfortuneatly I'm one of those people who use my head for it's intended purpose (makes me a nightmare citizen, I know) and asked him if cops really wanted to reduce road rage, then they should be willing to reduce the CAUSES of it (makes sense, right ?) such as pulling over drivers like the one who earned the honk I gave him. He didn't even RESPOND...as if how DARE this taxpaying citizen speak up about the things that are wrong in this world. I couldn't believe it. In the end I just got a ticket. But I pissed the judge off good when I told him that the roads needed be removed of the elderly and other slow drivers. Oh Well. I for one am sick of holding my tongue over the stupid spit that goes unchallenged in this world in the name of social order. Screw that. I speak up even if it costs because that's what I pay my TAXES for.

Speaking of slow drivers that NEED to be told the way it is, but PCness has too many terrified to speak out: Certain cultures (you know who you are) seem to always drive like slugs, they routinely go 20 miles or less below speed limit and do the take-forever-to-get-up-to-the-breakneck-speed-of-25 thing at lights. I'm here to say that THAT PISSES Americans OFF so KNOCK IT UP AND step on your gas pedals !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1/2 of me says you can't not be for real. The other 1/2 says you are a spoiled senselesson spoiled, self certerly, loud mouth. I am shocked the cop didn't drag your sorry A@@ into fail where you belong, before the judge sentensed you to a year in anger management classes.

How old was this old man who you are sure did not see you? Has it dawned on you someday you might be that old man? As for "certain cultures" talk about bigotted; wow, you must be a wonderful individaul to spend time with. Either you are all of maybe 20 going on about 5 or you need to get a life.

BTW: you refer to what pisses Americans off: maybe you should speak for yourself and not the rest of us.
Nita