The woman who died at Spreckels mansion (shop, beach)

[tickyul]

This one is hard to call. I suspect that this coming week, the evidence that has been examined will lead the DA to releasing the manner in which she died.....homicide or suicide. Rememer that David Carradine died in a real crazy manner, tied himself up....yikes.

[Clevelandgal]

David Carradine likely died unintentionally in a case of autoerotic asphyxiation- the only thing on common with this case was the noose. In DC's case, he probably did not plan to die but was trying to gratify himself.I am not aware of women dying in this manner and certainly not with bound hands and feet.

[djxpress]

let's just call a cat a cat and a spade a spade. If this was anyone else, we'd be crying bloody murder in an instant. The same people crying for Casey Anthony's demise are wondering how crazy this poor woman could be to tie her hands behind her back and bind her feet, and then hang herself. Probability of this being what happened = 0.01%.

When was the last time you read about a lady committing suicide by pulling some crazy Houdini isht like this? C'mon people, why ignore the obvious?

The original article said the owner of the house was nowhere to be found (wonder why?), and the brother who lives on the property just happened to stumble upon it? Blood is thicker than water....

[Clevelandgal]

If this "suicide" foolishness continues I am really going to be panicing I moved to a goofy small town. Unless credible evidence presents that this women had a borderline personality disorder and had acted like this before, this is not going to jive.

[earlyretirement]

Definitely I do NOT think it was suicide but I don't think there are enough facts to say for sure the owner was involved. Sure that could be the case but definitely not a slam dunk case. I still say that anyone that has a party a day or so after a kid gets in a serious accident where he eventually dies has some SERIOUS problems.

Also, I read in another newspaper article where police in Phoenix said they had to come out to the owner's house before there so it will be curious to finally read what that entailed.

I think the Coronado Police Department did the right thing and I applaud them. They have NO experience with murders and immediately asked for help which is the best you can expect them to do. Now it will just be a waiting game to see what they reveal.

It seems like everyone is so scared to post something right now without more facts as they are scared of getting the pants sued from them if they are wrong since this guy is a MULTI MULTI millionaire. Besides, I think it's too early to be playing the blame game on who killed this woman. But I think we all can agree she was probably murdered.

[Clevelandgal]

one of the articles said the sister talked to the victim the night she died and said she was just fine, her usual self. That was strange, b/c this child she had known for 3 years had a horrific accident while under her care less than 24 hours prior, and was clinging to life that night. maybe they only took part of a quote-

[hitman619]

I agree with earlyretirement on this one!
Chief Wiggum did the right thing calling in the sheriffs.

The question is going to be will Bonnie have the balls to go after the killer of this girl?

[SoCalCroozer]

There have been several cases of suicide where people have tied their hands so they couldnt change their mind. Not sure why ankles. But who the hell knows. Rich people who have nothing better to do are into some pretty kinky f'd up crap. There was just another murder in SD. Some kid murdered his police detective mom and sister. Crazy down there. Im sick of CA. State is going to hell in a hand basket.......sad thing is the rest of the country is following in its footsteps. This is a third world state..........rich and everyone else.

[PharmboyinNC]

Originally Posted by SoCalCroozer

There have been several cases of suicide where people have tied their hands so they couldnt change their mind. Not sure why ankles. But who the hell knows. Rich people who have nothing better to do are into some pretty kinky f'd up crap. There was just another murder in SD. Some kid murdered his police detective mom and sister. Crazy down there. Im sick of CA. State is going to hell in a hand basket.......sad thing is the rest of the country is following in its footsteps. This is a third world state..........rich and everyone else.

Even with all the craziness, this country is still in a much better condition than many others. Most American's don't know how fortunate we are for our freedom and liberties, because many don't venture outside of our country to know differently.

Granted hanging naked and bound seems more like a message than a suicide.

Also, we don't know who/what the party was for...someones small birthday or business-related that couldn't be canceled or did not deal with the suspects.

[earlyretirement]

Originally Posted by PharmboyinNC

Even with all the craziness, this country is still in a much better condition than many others. Most American's don't know how fortunate we are for our freedom and liberties, because many don't venture outside of our country to know differently.
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I have to agree with you 1000% PharmboyinNC. People can say what they want about the USA, but it's still the best country in the world with the highest quality of life, IMHO.

The USA tends to be the whipping boy for horrible places but I spend much of the year traveling around the world to other countries, as well I've lived in other countries and own properties in several other countries and once I had kids, I made the decision to move back to the USA.

Best place in the world to raise kids, it's safe, and the most important thing is everything works well. For the most part, people obey traffic laws and when you walk into a post office or a grocery store it's totally efficient and a smooth process. There are lots of countries around the world where just going into a post office is an hour or multiple hour wait.

Sorry this got off topic but I had to chime in here and totally agree say what you want about the USA but it's still one of the best countries in the world with the highest qualities of life.

I'm here in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico right now and it's surreal seeing all these pick up trucks with police armed with machine guys driving around. Almost every block has cops with guns and even going to the beach you have store owners packing heat.

People don't know how good they have it in the USA...warts and all...