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Old 03-04-2012, 12:36 PM
 
Location: San Diego A.K.A "D.A.Y.G.O City"
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North County is pretty limited when it comes to seeing Black people on a daily basis because of how expensive it is live up North, but East County especially in El Cajon, now in some parts of La Mesa, Lemon Grove, all have higher than usual black populations.

Just the other day I went to Grossmont center, and saw way more blacks and mexicans than I ever have in years past.

If there is any racism in San Diego and you are Hispanic or Black, it's always non verbal. You are single out by either a constant stare or simply bad vibes depending on where your at.

In a heavily all white area such as Santee and Lakeside, it's hardcore conservative, Hickish mentality has left this non verbal racism on me personally over the years. But I would say things have gotten better.

Honestly it's more about Social economic factors like some have stated here already that lead people to pre judge one another. It's like if you rolled up in a old 90's or 80's Toyota Camry in La Jolla to go shopping or eat something, while walking out of your car, I bet you would feel uncomfortable among the many other rich people that are driving brand new BMW, Mercedes, and other luxury cars staring you down and wondering, what are you doing there.

Since San Diego is a wealthy city, many snobs do look down upon certain people, this is what I would consider the 21st century racism. It's all about how much money you got.
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:32 PM
 
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honestly... you sound like one of those subtle racists mentioned in your own rant...
Really? How in the world did you come to that conclusion?
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:14 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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North County is pretty limited when it comes to seeing Black people on a daily basis because of how expensive it is live up North, but East County especially in El Cajon, now in some parts of La Mesa, Lemon Grove, all have higher than usual black populations.

Just the other day I went to Grossmont center, and saw way more blacks and mexicans than I ever have in years past.

If there is any racism in San Diego and you are Hispanic or Black, it's always non verbal. You are single out by either a constant stare or simply bad vibes depending on where your at.

In a heavily all white area such as Santee and Lakeside, it's hardcore conservative, Hickish mentality has left this non verbal racism on me personally over the years. But I would say things have gotten better.

Honestly it's more about Social economic factors like some have stated here already that lead people to pre judge one another. It's like if you rolled up in a old 90's or 80's Toyota Camry in La Jolla to go shopping or eat something, while walking out of your car, I bet you would feel uncomfortable among the many other rich people that are driving brand new BMW, Mercedes, and other luxury cars staring you down and wondering, what are you doing there.

Since San Diego is a wealthy city, many snobs do look down upon certain people, this is what I would consider the 21st century racism. It's all about how much money you got.
It is, to a point, about class warfare. No one in a middle to upper class hood wants to see some gangbanger looking ride rolling in their hood. If there is expect to be watched closely. I've seen the crime stats people don't usually get to see. The stats that show where the crimes were committed and then where the perps lived. Man oh man, would that start a class warfare.

They do everything they can to prevent it too. Think S Mission during the summer when it's packed. No through traffic. Sometimes the numbers speak for themselves. If people want to label it racism so be it but you can't deny the numbers.
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Old 03-07-2012, 01:56 PM
 
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racism is everywhere
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Old 03-07-2012, 02:33 PM
 
Location: West Chester, PA
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[quote=1AngryTaxPayer;23273852]It is, to a point, about class warfare. No one in a middle to upper class hood wants to see some gangbanger looking ride rolling in their hood. If there is expect to be watched closely. I've seen the crime stats people don't usually get to see. The stats that show where the crimes were committed and then where the perps lived. Man oh man, would that start a class warfare.

They do everything they can to prevent it too. Think S Mission during the summer when it's packed. No through traffic. Sometimes the numbers speak for themselves. If people want to label it racism so be it but you can't deny the numbers.[/quote]

Since I don't live in SD, I don't understand what you're referring to; please explain!
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Old 03-07-2012, 02:59 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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It is, to a point, about class warfare. No one in a middle to upper class hood wants to see some gangbanger looking ride rolling in their hood. If there is expect to be watched closely. I've seen the crime stats people don't usually get to see. The stats that show where the crimes were committed and then where the perps lived. Man oh man, would that start a class warfare.

They do everything they can to prevent it too. Think S Mission during the summer when it's packed. No through traffic. Sometimes the numbers speak for themselves. If people want to label it racism so be it but you can't deny the numbers.[/quote]

Since I don't live in SD, I don't understand what you're referring to; please explain!

S Mission used to be this quiet hang out for mostly locals. (aka mostly caucasians). It pretty much started all in one year but the cruisers from South East and South Bay started to come up. And, one couldn't blame them either cause who would hang out in a park there? I found it kind of funny cause the Zonies that rented the beach condos every year were all of a sudden hostages in their condos. Fights on the beaches and bays, shootings and overall gang bang activity. The council was desperate to do something as those tourist dollars were drying up so they put it a temp booze ban. They also posted SDPD at the entrance to MB and turned any gang banger looking rides around while still letting local traffic through. The results were so dramatic that they later went full tilt with showing these "crazy" College kids in a "riot" to help convince everyone that the booze ban must stay.
The gang bangers were the problem, not the dumb College kids. The College kids didn't leave, they just went inside and into the bars. The Council and Mayor successfully drove the gang bangers out and pushed the kids into houses and bars.

Now all the retired upper middle class that bought at the beach (and used to be the ones partying back in the day) can now have their private lil Utopia in peace.

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Old 03-07-2012, 03:13 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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S Mission used to be this quiet hang out for mostly locals. (aka mostly caucasians). It pretty much started all in one year but the cruisers from South East and South Bay started to come up. And, one couldn't blame them either cause who would hang out in a park there? I found it kind of funny cause the Zonies that rented the beach condos every year were all of a sudden hostages in their condos. Fights on the beaches and bays, shootings and overall gang bang activity. The council was desperate to do something as those tourist dollars were drying up so they put it a temp booze ban. They also posted SDPD at the entrance to MB and turned any gang banger looking rides around while still letting local traffic through. The results were so dramatic that they later went full tilt with showing these "crazy" College kids in a "riot" to help convince everyone that the booze ban must stay.
The gang bangers were the problem, not the dumb College kids. The College kids didn't leave, they just went inside and into the bars. The Council and Mayor successfully drove the gang bangers out and pushed the kids into houses and bars.

Now all the retired whites that bought at the beach (and used to be the ones partying back in the day) can now have their private lil Utopia in peace.
That's interesting! I didn't know that much detail about it.

I remember that alleged "riot". And I remember who/what caused it.

I didn't know that there were so many gang folks who were making trouble at the beach.

And, to be fair, when we used to go to the beach we saw plenty of drunk, rowdy college kids ... and drunk, rowdy street people. So it wasn't all gang folks making trouble.

Still, I think they went too far. Mainly because I'd love to take a picnic supper to the beach, and enjoy it with some beer or wine.
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Old 03-07-2012, 05:20 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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That's interesting! I didn't know that much detail about it.

I remember that alleged "riot". And I remember who/what caused it.

I didn't know that there were so many gang folks who were making trouble at the beach.

And, to be fair, when we used to go to the beach we saw plenty of drunk, rowdy college kids ... and drunk, rowdy street people. So it wasn't all gang folks making trouble.

Still, I think they went too far. Mainly because I'd love to take a picnic supper to the beach, and enjoy it with some beer or wine.
The College bunch ( I was one of them-guilty) concentrated in a few spots. The only real mess was in front of Lahainas. That's also where most of the homeless drunks hung out. The only other real bad spot was in front of the Coaster area. The rest, not so much.

The gang banger problem was "the problem" not just idiots drinking. I never heard of some College drunk moron pulling a gat and shooting someone down there.

So, can someone call it racism? I guess if they want to. It wouldn't be correct but if you look at the color of the skin of who was being deterred from cruising the beach? I suppose so.
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Old 03-07-2012, 07:16 PM
 
Location: West Chester, PA
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The College bunch ( I was one of them-guilty) concentrated in a few spots. The only real mess was in front of Lahainas. That's also where most of the homeless drunks hung out. The only other real bad spot was in front of the Coaster area. The rest, not so much.

The gang banger problem was "the problem" not just idiots drinking. I never heard of some College drunk moron pulling a gat and shooting someone down there.

So, can someone call it racism? I guess if they want to. It wouldn't be correct but if you look at the color of the skin of who was being deterred from cruising the beach? I suppose so.
WOW! How many shootings occurred? Were they fighting other gang members or were they doing drive bys? So you say this is no longer happening, is it occurring in other areas now?
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:17 PM
 
Location: La Mesa Aka The Table
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Pacific Beach Chaos - YouTube

I don't see any gang bangers in video,but i see a lot of college kids.
And most people driving ghetto cars at the beach are not gang bangers.
A lot them are in car clubs like i use to be.
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