What Happens If the Navy and Iran start shooting?

[prairiestate]

Originally Posted by tickyul

UH......wut.....care to expand on this weird post????

Is it possible that you could have an infection in your CNS????

The Persians were quite formidable just a couple millennia ago, definitely one of the more underrated empires in history.

[ctwhitechin]

Watching 300 again? Maybe Iran is trying to resurrect Xerzes.

[jimhcom]

Originally Posted by AADAD

it's the combination of the small ships the land based missles and the air power all at once that destroyed our ships in the war games. i would not underestimate their willingness to go "all in" in the strait. I remind myself that these people see death as a resolution to be achieved. sick as it may be..that's the way these f'ers roll.

Did it ever occur to you that they may have released that story in order to bolster Iran’s confidence and to goad them into trying an attack?
In the real world, western defense contractors make billions selling weapons systems to countries like Saudi Arabia, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, and almost all of Europe.
What do you think successful military engagements like the Gulf war’s do for sales of those systems?
Russia and China on the other hand would hate to see another conflict that demonstrates that their systems are still a quarter century behind, despite the sales jobs they have done telling their customers their systems are state of the art.
War games are run constantly by supercomputers that run every possible scenario and circumstance. Every contingency is taken into consideration and unlike our so called enemies; the US military budget to deal with those contingencies is basically unlimited.
Us military ships have the capability to literally throw up a steel curtain with super computer controlled combinations of anti missile shrapnel, laser, and electronic/ radar jamming equipment. If a US warship is hit by an Iranian missile, it will more than likely be a false flag operation in order to justify a massive US attack on Iran’s military and infrastructure.

[AADAD]

No I did not occur to me. The admiral who was speaking about the war games and what they learned sounded credible. In addition, the report of the war games was echoed by other sources. They found that the combination of small arms, land based and mobile surface missiles overwhelmed the larger ships.

[MovingAloha]

Originally Posted by AADAD

No I did not occur to me. The admiral who was speaking about the war games and what they learned sounded credible. In addition, the report of the war games was echoed by other sources. They found that the combination of small arms, land based and mobile surface missiles overwhelmed the larger ships.

War games are just that, games and although they are a valuable tool to assist in planning, it is just one of many elements. I've participated in such games and you have to keep in mind, that your opponent in the game is another U.S. military operative with the skill and training inherent in that fact. The military weapons and tools available to Iran must be successfully planned for and utilized by the Iranians with training not necessarily equivalent to that of their U.S., European and other allies. I don't believe there is an equivalency.

[AADAD]

Originally Posted by MovingAloha

War games are just that, games and although they are a valuable tool to assist in planning, it is just one of many elements. I've participated in such games and you have to keep in mind, that your opponent in the game is another U.S. military operative with the skill and training inherent in that fact. The military weapons and tools available to Iran must be successfully planned for and utilized by the Iranians with training not necessarily equivalent to that of their U.S., European and other allies. I don't believe there is an equivalency.

I am glad to know your viewpoint but I do think overconfidence is a killer whether in baseball or something less desirable like a battle keeping the strait open.

[MovingAloha]

Originally Posted by AADAD

I am glad to know your viewpoint but I do think overconfidence is a killer whether in baseball or something less desirable like a battle keeping the strait open.

Oh no, I'm not attempting to be over-confident. I am confident in our abilities in planning and anticipation, however. Crazy is as Crazy does!! I have absolutely no confidence in Iran having a handle on the "Crazy." But it would be definitely more disadvantages to Iran to close off a big piece of their revenue and that is why I hope doing something so untoward as trying to close the Straits is not worth their while and is a lot of "Bark."

[AADAD]

Originally Posted by MovingAloha

Oh no, I'm not attempting to be over-confident. I am confident in our abilities in planning and anticipation, however. Crazy is as Crazy does!! I have absolutely no confidence in Iran having a handle on the "Crazy." But it would be definitely more disadvantages to Iran to close off a big piece of their revenue and that is why I hope doing something so untoward as trying to close the Straits is not worth their while and is a lot of "Bark."

laughing here....no handle on the "Crazy". Seriously funny.

Let's hope their judgment is better than their loony. I lived through the overestimation of the United States in Vietnam and saw a once great power humbled by peasants. That was very hard to witness.

[jimhcom]

Originally Posted by AADAD

No I did not occur to me. The admiral who was speaking about the war games and what they learned sounded credible. In addition, the report of the war games was echoed by other sources. They found that the combination of small arms, land based and mobile surface missiles overwhelmed the larger ships.

When dealing with governments, things are seldom as they are portrayed. Most of what the corporate owned main stream media feeds the public is about as relative to reality as an episode of desperate housewives.
But then a percentage of the population believes in Jerry Springer and the National Inquirer.
An uneducated democracy is a scary thing.

[AADAD]

Originally Posted by jimhcom

When dealing with governments, things are seldom as they are portrayed. Most of what the corporate owned main stream media feeds the public is about as relative to reality as an episode of desperate housewives.
But then a percentage of the population believes in Jerry Springer and the National Inquirer.
An uneducated democracy is a scary thing.

Scary every day....